So... everyone who isn't a Uyghur supports how the Uyghurs are treated?

Classy.

Not even sure what you mean here. The only Uyghurs I talked to who I suspect were very upset by the security lockdown were older. That said, there's some self-selection there as the older you get the less likely you speak Mandarin, and the only things I know in Uyghur are "hello" and "thanks" lol

still wasting time with these clowns I see. All these guys probably never left america beside holydays once per year, and when they do they'll stand at hotel and read western newspapers anyways.

Cannot fight dissonance. A crucifix is the best weapon against demons

Nord Stream had already been "successfully" shut down for over a month, with no signs of being reopened anytime soon. The US had already achieved their main goal with regard to Nord Stream, so their motive for additionally blowing it up is far smaller than you or this meme insinuate. Blowing up the infrastructure project of their own ally, just to preemptively rule out a highly hypothetical scenario in which public upheaval causes European governments to resume gas trade with Russia, seems like a really contrived hypothesis.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 1 2022 01:25am

And Russia blowing up their cash cow is not

This post was edited by Djunior on Oct 1 2022 04:08am

Ok the mermaids did it.

There were protests to open up NS in Germany the day before America bombed them, and German companies and industrial orgs have been issuing increasingly desperate warnings and pleas for relief on energy prices.

It's weird to think that expecting this pressure to grow is "really contrived", particularly when the alternative explanations put forward by the denialists on here is that Russia blew up it's own highly leverageable infrastructure because of various types of fever dreams about imminent coups against Putin or variations of Putin 'really sticking it to Europe'.

This post is ignorant.
Underprivileged merpeople only commit crimes because they are poor.

Just a joke

Just a reminder: Russia itself had stopped sending gas through Nord Stream 1, Germany was still willing to take it. So we have very recent evidence of Russia preferring to inflict economic pain on Europe over actually using its cash cow. In spite of Nord Stream supplying no more gas, German storages kept being filled up. Not at the same rate as before, but still. So it increasingly looks as if Germany, and the rest of Europe, will get through this winter without Russian gas without running into outright shortages like Russia had hoped for. The price is still an issue, but world market prices were on a steady downward trend before the explosions introduced new uncertainty into the markets.

Simply put, the carrot Russia had hoped to dangle in front of Germany/Europe had turned out to be less appetizing than they thought. The Nord Stream pipelines were supplying no more gas, yet still didn't provide Russia the leverage they wanted to get out of them. Pushing gas prices upwards again and sending a message to Europe that its critical infrastructure is vulnerable serves Russia's interests in this situation.


Also note that such a move is totally plausible for Putin - back in 1999, he had his FSB buddies bomb apartment buildings in various Russian cities in a false flag operation which sped up the beginning of the (probably inevitable) Chechen War and facilitated Putin's rise to power. We know this because FSB agents were caught red-handed with a bomb in the basement of yet another apartment building. Putin was the prime minister at the time, the FSB head was a certain Nikolai Patrushew, who today is the head of Russia's security council and remains one of Putin's closest and most trusted confidants.




These protests weren't really large-scale, and they came from the usual suspects. There are still comparatively many Russia simps in former East Germany. The companies want as much relief money from the government as possible, so we can safely assume their complaints to be strategically overblown. They are definitely struggling, don't get me wrong, but I doubt that they struggle as much as they say.

Like I've argued above, Nord Stream was no longer "highly leverageable".

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 1 2022 02:17pm