Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 05:43pm)

so in a year in which schools were largely closed "only" 10 kids were murdered there - and you think that's a good argument in favour of not addressing the issue?! and again they still were the LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONGST CHILDREN. what part of "other gun related issue, like suicides, accidents, and crime are obviously also worth addressing - those people aren't less dead just because they weren't shot in a school" is too difficult for you to understand? how many dead kids are acceptable for you so no one does anything about america's gun pandemic? is there any number you would NOT try to downplay and dismiss? be honest...

Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 01:08pm)

nice dodge on the incarceration numbers, and your pathetic attempt at portraying them as justified and reasonable, lol.
there are countless ways of trying to measure the concept of "freedom", dozens of rankings from various different institutes, and none ranks the US even close to the top. in terms of individual freedoms in particular, you often rank significantly lower than your peers. i just picked the first one i came across, feel free to counter with a study of YOUR choosing, oh wait, you can't...
and again, my main point: your guns do not contribute in any positive way to whatever actual "freedom" you have, quite the opposite...

Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 05:43pm)

so in a year in which schools were largely closed "only" 10 kids were murdered there - and you think that's a good argument in favour of not addressing the issue?! and again they still were the LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONGST CHILDREN. what part of "other gun related issue, like suicides, accidents, and crime are obviously also worth addressing - those people aren't less dead just because they weren't shot in a school" is too difficult for you to understand? how many dead kids are acceptable for you so no one does anything about america's gun pandemic? is there any number you would NOT try to downplay and dismiss? be honest...

Quote (Sixers @ May 25 2022 02:52pm)

Approximately 4,500 kids aged 19 years or younger died from gun violence in 2020 in the U.S (10 of those were in school when it happened). The VAST majority of them were 14-19 years old, many out of high school already or dropped out and on the streets in low income inner city areas, many gang related.

That same year there were 74 million kids in that age range in the U.S. This means 4,500 kids out of 7,000,000 died as a result of gun violence. That's 0.0642857143%.

The media has you believing things are more out of control than they really are.

Quote (thundercock @ 25 May 2022 23:50)

What's wrong with high incarceration numbers if people are committing crimes? It seems to me that we should be building MORE prisons so that law abiding citizens can live in peace and we can separate them from the criminals. Having said that, I think we also want to see what we can do to integrate people back into society. We do a very poor job at that.

As for the gun problem we've made our decision and we simply need to live with them. Maybe we can revisit the issue every ten years or so and reevaluate. In the mean time, I recommend we hold a military style ceremony for every person who dies due to gun violence. We will present the family with an American flag and we will thank them for their sacrifice. Those people died so we could have the right to bear arms and they should be honored.

Quote (Skinned @ 25 May 2022 23:45)

Some Americans are offended by the word cunt but not offended by butchered children. It is the price to be paid for their hobby.

Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 02:59pm)

don't tell me you're genuinely unaware of how and why america's war on drugs started, who was targeted specifically (crack vs. powdered cocaine sentencing), the systemic flaws within the system, the for profit prison industry, and the huge amount of low level, non-violent people populating your prisons. i refuse to believe you actually think those millions of people deserve to be incarcerated, and that your justice system is doing a good job.

the hoops some people are willing to jump through in order to maintain their delusion of "freedom" is pretty amazing...

Quote (Sixers @ May 25 2022 05:52pm)

Approximately 4,500 kids aged 19 years or younger died from gun violence in 2020 in the U.S (10 of those were in school when it happened). The VAST majority of them were 14-19 years old, many out of high school already or dropped out and on the streets in low income inner city areas, many gang related.

That same year there were 74 million kids in that age range in the U.S. This means 4,500 kids out of 7,000,000 died as a result of gun violence. That's 0.0642857143%.

The media has you believing things are more out of control than they really are.

Quote (Skinned @ May 25 2022 03:12pm)

Maybe it will be your kid one day and it will be important.

Why can't conservatives conceptualize of a thing until it affects them?

Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 08:10am)

does it not bother you how hollow and easily debunked your talking points are? you claim that america's rejection of science is somehow indicative of your love of "freedom from government", yet on the other hand you have some of the most comprehensive laws to surveil and restrict individual freedoms and private affairs in western culture. you have a police force that brutalises and violates you without much accountability, you have the largest prison population in the history of mankind, you have corporations that own your politicians and pay them to prevent any legislation that would protect citizens against exploitation. your alleged "freedoms" are a myth. you get guns as a distraction, cultural wars to keep your attention away from the oppression you suffer, you're made to hate and fight your fellow citizen over bullshit superficial distinctions, and you're too ignorant to realise that. meanwhile your children keep dying because you were successfully brainwashed with jingoism, bigotry, and religious zealotry.

https://i.imgur.com/tXltefr.jpeg


right wing covidiots rejecting science is not a sign of "freedom", but one of morons choosing partisan political narratives over common sense. if anything it's a demonstration of how easily americans are manipulated into hurting themselves and each other if just ONE person decides it's politically expedient. "freedom", lol...

Quote (thundercock @ 26 May 2022 00:20)

Probably because they raise them with good values? A conservative father isn't going to be an absent father because he needs to provide for his family. A conservative mother is going to be actively involved in the kid's life. How many children of conservatives are involved with organized crime?

In the rare case where conservative parents are bad, well, the conservative child is the one doing the shooting.