Quote (thundercock @ May 17 2022 04:48pm)
I don't think it's a technicality...it's just the proper use of words. I guess from my perspective, "white" isn't inherently good and "color" isn't inherently bad. I identify with the Filipino catholic much more than the white atheist. I identify more with the Indian engineer than the white construction worker. To me, things like religion, occupation, education, etc. are SIGNIFICANTLY more important than ethnicity. Hell, even among "white" people in general, there is an insane amount of diversity. Someone of Italian descent is going to have a VERY different culture than someone of Russian descent and both of them will have a different culture than someone of British descent.
Based on what you're saying, it seems like you're equating whites with nativism/conservatism and immigrants with liberalism. I actually find white people to be FAR more liberal than their black, Asian, and Hispanic counterparts but that's likely due to income levels. From my perspective, I think it's extremely defeatist to just assume immigrants and their descendants will automatically vote Republican. I think immigrants can definitely be convinced to joint the Republicans because they tend to have traditional/conservative values. Do you dislike Cuban/Venezuelan immigrants even though they overwhelmingly vote Republican?
As I've tried to explain, that you're not literally shipping whites back to Europe is irrelevant. The relevant end effect here is the dilution of white representation due to proportionality. That is why I am saying the hang up on the word "replacement" is not only a strawman as I have never been a proponent of the "great replacement theory" as stated (jewish cabal bullshit) but it's also a distraction from what matters in the end. Political power.
Regarding "white is good" - in the context of whites losing political representation by proportionality, yes, it is inherently worse for whites when that representation decreases. That's the virtue by which the situation is good or bad.
Yes, non-whites are far less liberal. But the way the political parties work in America, non-whites are almost obligated to vote Democrat as a means of gaining personal power, regardless of how absolutely not on board non-whites largely are with all the wacky and woke white liberal degenerate nonsense. It's not an ideological vote, it's a practical one. No, I don't dislike cuban/venezuelan immigrants. I don't "dislike" immigrants, I dislike that our politics is an ethnic headcount and that whites have every reason to be concerned with becoming outnumbered in such a system that will absolutely engage in outright predation when a critical mass is reached. Democracy does not inherently capture and confer all things moral. For example, 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting for who's for dinner.
This post was edited by Nibthebarb on May 17 2022 07:05pm