Give it time. I didn't seem to get pissy, was just stating a fact.

Waiting on your evidence of long-term negative impact of the vaccines.

InB4 #ITrollU

There's no research yet to show either way due to the vaccinated currently being used as test subjects for that data. Anyone taking the jab is literally making an uninformed decision and risk while simultaneously volunteering to be a test subject on the long-term impact.

Lotta words to say "My claims are unfounded"

most of this type of narrative derives from false information about the potential for long term effects.

like if there's a new acid reflux medicine, research shows that risks of heart attacks are likely zero or close. so they dont do long term studies on heart risks or make the clinical trials drag out 5 years because the adverse effects, and yes there are for any medical trial, are minimal.

what i find interesting is that anti-vaccine proponents talk often about the immediate and vast number of short term side effects that are studied and known about covid vaccines. and were known before the vaccine itself was made publicly available from the shortened clinical trials before public release and before the FDA gave the drugs temporary approval, which was then upgraded later. but also talk about unknown long term side effects based on a heap of incorrect data such as RNA gene resequencing or infertility fears not based on clinical data. its as if someone online said "maybe it will shrink ovaries" and people just ran with it.

predicting long term medical side effects of drug usage is not an exact science, but there's still generally a range of outcomes that are predicted and tend to be proven right. this happened even with C19 vaccines, and yet i hear statements like yours that imply we can't possibly know for a mystery number of years with any certainty.

Yes, your claims are unfounded because there is no research showing what the long-term impact is yet.


I haven't had COVID and don't plan to get COVID. I am in the <40 range and my chance of death from COVID is .1% according to statistics. So since my chances are 1/1000 of dying from COVID and I've gone roughly 1.5 years (March 2020 is when COVID was considered a pandemic), then I'll gladly take my chances. I won't be guilt tripped into taking vaccinations that have shown to not greatly impact one's ability to transmit COVID and/or carry it to others. I don't see the point in jabbing myself with something experimental that has limited data on the long-term impacts by companies with bad backgrounds. If you go to Google and type in "largest fine in us history" then Pfizer pops up. No thanks. Moderna had 1.6 million vaccinations pop up as contaminated. No thanks. Scare tactics and peer pressure aren't going to make me jab my arm and be a test subject. If someone else wants to, then fine, let them. I don't have beef with people that are vaccinated and I respect their decision. I just think it's silly that the unvaccinated are being treated as lepers or something like everyone is auto-infected with COVID when that's simply not true. I also think it's stupid that a virus that has killed roughly 1% of those infected has caused everyone to rush to a vaccine instead of using common sense.

i work with plenty of unvaccinated people, frankly i dont care who is and isn't vaccinated from a judgement level. im more curious to explore motivations behind why people do things.

so since u mentioned lack of data on long term effects i have a few questions.

1. what length of time would make you feel more comfortable with vaccine safety, even if you'd still not get jabbed.

2. what sort of long term negative effects are you concerned with?

in any case there is research on long term effects of Mrna technology. it wasnt invented for this vaccine, it was implemented. theres a huge difference.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 13 2021 12:02pm

That argument only works if I made some claims bud

1. 10 years minimum
2. Anything negative

I simply do not want to get the vaccine and choose not to. My natural immunity has done well for my whole life and I don't feel the need to put myself at risk. Since there's a 1/1000 chance of death for someone at my age (less than 40), I do not see the point. Research has already shown that we will more than likely be stuck with COVID-19 forever regardless of how many are vaccinated.

so you're afraid of fear?

i got the impression you'd done a bit of research on long term side effects given ur posts. maybe i was wrong. u seem more apt to rant on generalities of mortality than discuss specifics.