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Jan 11 2021 11:51pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 11 2021 11:42pm)
Sounds like a darkhead69 qanon post.

Im gunna wait a week on this one.


https://gizmodo.com/every-deleted-parler-post-many-with-users-location-dat-1846032466
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Jan 12 2021 12:59am
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link to the archive or stfu
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Jan 12 2021 03:26am
https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-european-leaders-question-twitter-donald-trump-ban/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/merkel-sees-closing-trump-s-social-media-accounts-problematic

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On Monday, a spokesman for Merkel said Twitter's Trump ban was “problematic.” “The fundamental right [of freedom of expression] can be interfered with, but along the lines of the law and within the framework defined by the lawmakers. Not according to the decision of the management of social media platforms,” government spokesperson Steffen Seibert said.


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French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire, while condemning Trump’s “lies,” also expressed his disagreement with Twitter’s ability to unilaterally decide to remove the American president from the platform. “What shocks me is that Twitter is the one to close his account. The regulation of the digital world cannot be done by the digital oligarchy”. Le Maire oversees the ministry for digital affairs, whose junior minister Cédric O also raised questions over the weekend. “The regulation of public discourse by the main social media companies with regards only to their Terms and Conditions ... seems, to say the least, a little short from a democratic point of view.”


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Thierry Breton, one of key EU commissioners behind [digital platform] reforms, wrote [...] that “the fact that a CEO can pull the plug on POTUS’s loudspeaker without any checks and balances is perplexing. It is not only confirmation of the power of these platforms, but it also displays deep weaknesses in the way our society is organized in the digital space.”

The head of EU diplomacy, Josep Borrell, wrote [...] that Europe needs “to be able to better regulate the contents of social networks, while scrupulously respecting freedom of expression. It is not possible for this regulation to be carried out mainly according to rules and procedures set by private actors.”


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Manfred Weber, chairman of the EPP group at the European Parliament, concurred, telling Brussels Playbook: “The EU mustn’t let Facebook and Twitter decide what’s within the boundaries of the acceptable on their platforms.” “We cannot leave it to American Big Tech companies to decide how we do and do not discuss, what can and cannot be said in a democratic discourse. We need a stricter regulatory approach,” Weber added.


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All those leading European politicians are able to see the danger in private companies unilaterally setting the terms of public discourse, without democratic legitimization or oversight. It's really no secret that there is absolutely no love lost between Trump and Merkel, Macron or the EU. They all condemned his lies and his incitement of violence in the strongest of terms, yet were nonetheless able to see that Big Tech having the power to silence the American president - no matter how much he might have "deserved it" - is hugely problematic. If even Trump's political and ideological adversaries from across the pond are able to see this problem, why are our resident establishment-cheerleaders unable to see it?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 12 2021 03:32am
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Jan 12 2021 03:28am
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Conservative viewpoints being censored:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErZnZSaXAAAJt_g.png


cool post
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Jan 12 2021 04:17am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jan 11 2021 11:25pm)
I wouldn't necessarily say that. This is a screen grab from a Reddit post describing how utterly fucked Parler's platform security is, and how it's been co-opted by administrative access to view and dump terabytes of "deleted" posts and user information (including the scans of actual drivers licenses many users uploaded for gaining "verified" accounts). This data dump has already been used by the FBI to add identified people to the no-fly list.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98393568757964800/798422137023102986/FB_IMG_1610427913706.jpg


That doesn't address the people who were arrested, nor the fact that the planning for the event went down on FB.
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Jan 12 2021 07:14am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Jan 2021 04:26)
https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-european-leaders-question-twitter-donald-trump-ban/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/merkel-sees-closing-trump-s-social-media-accounts-problematic









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All those leading European politicians are able to see the danger in private companies unilaterally setting the terms of public discourse, without democratic legitimization or oversight. It's really no secret that there is absolutely no love lost between Trump and Merkel, Macron or the EU. They all condemned his lies and his incitement of violence in the strongest of terms, yet were nonetheless able to see that Big Tech having the power to silence the American president - no matter how much he might have "deserved it" - is hugely problematic. If even Trump's political and ideological adversaries from across the pond are able to see this problem, why are our resident establishment-cheerleaders unable to see it?

because they want this
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Jan 12 2021 07:16am
Weve all been predicting this since Alex Jones was booted

Quote (SuperSpreader @ Jan 12 2021 04:28am)
cool post


One person said a no no so we have to burn your whole house down to stop hATe sPeECh

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jan 12 2021 07:17am
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Jan 12 2021 08:00am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 12 2021 03:26am)
https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-european-leaders-question-twitter-donald-trump-ban/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/merkel-sees-closing-trump-s-social-media-accounts-problematic

All those leading European politicians are able to see the danger in private companies unilaterally setting the terms of public discourse, without democratic legitimization or oversight. It's really no secret that there is absolutely no love lost between Trump and Merkel, Macron or the EU. They all condemned his lies and his incitement of violence in the strongest of terms, yet were nonetheless able to see that Big Tech having the power to silence the American president - no matter how much he might have "deserved it" - is hugely problematic. If even Trump's political and ideological adversaries from across the pond are able to see this problem, why are our resident establishment-cheerleaders unable to see it?


You are missing the bigger, more sinister picture. These governments want more controls over the internet, whatever the justification. Today it will be under the guise of 'free and open public discourse' by blocking the 'big bad' sites and apps. This whole conversation is retarded though, everyone is arguing about Tech on the wrong abstraction layer. All the abstraction layers down from an actual HTML, CSS, JS, WASM, ETC website and DNS routings should be guarded and not dicked around with. If your organization doesn't have the 'know how' to setup shop, learn to compete. Just sounds like a lot of web service platform entitlement aka pay to win rhetoric that boomers spew.

Imagine Parler is setup on a private server farm, but Google DNS is dicked around with so no traffic ever gets there. That would be nasty.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jan 12 2021 08:02am
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Jan 12 2021 08:07am
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 11 2021 09:52pm)
I'm sorry. I thought you read the news and were up to speed on current events. I made a poor assumption and frankly I don't have time to educate you on basic facts. Just ignore everything I said.


This should be the default response to ofthevoid btw.
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Jan 12 2021 08:23am
Apparently Ron Paul is banned too.

Do you people have any idea how obvious your fuckery us?

Quote (IceMage @ Jan 12 2021 09:07am)
This should be the default response to ofthevoid btw.


Youre not even a real person any more.

Former republican that pretends to be opposition to start conversation? Or just bad at life? Who knows

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jan 12 2021 08:25am
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