Quote (duffman316 @ 26 Aug 2020 16:34)

Be sure to raise your fist for blm
https://m.imgur.com/a8ngXGI

Quote (Santara @ Aug 26 2020 04:23pm)

I'm not sure if this was pointed out, though I thought you yourself did: when you put yourself into a situation you don't have any legal right to be in, you lose the ability to claim self-defense.

OTOH, I just saw this picture of the shooter:

https://www.nationalistreview.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/chrome_XROPsa1Uof.png

...which might give him that legality back, if he was some kind of cop-in-training.

Quote (balrog66 @ Aug 26 2020 04:24pm)

I really really have to say I fucking hate the internet doxxing literally everyone.

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 26 2020 04:40pm)

Wouldn't such an interpretation make any organized citizen mobilization in response to lawlessness inherently criminal?
That is after all pretty much the definition of a militia.
The mob isn't constrained by staying at their homes and attacking only people they can reach from their lawns. When they band together and target lone citizens, they have a number advantage.
Saying that people can't organize to defend themselves can have the same effect as saying they can't defend themselves, when an organized resistance is necessary.
The whole idea of forming militias and posses to defense against outlaws, well it might be anachronistic but it is American as apple pie.

Quote (excellence @ Aug 26 2020 01:36pm)

agreed, sadly it’s literally encouraged by the media since they claim it’s “relevant information”

remember cnn threatened to doxx some guy on reddit cuz he made the wrestling meme with trump and vince mcmahon with cnn’s logo imposed on the latter’s face

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 26 2020 03:33pm)

I think defending YOUR property or even something very local to your property (i.e. a house that's walking distance) is appropriate. If you're getting in a car and are traveling miles from your property, I think that's a really tough sell.

For example, I'm less than 10 miles from downtown LA (~45 minutes). It would be highly inappropriate for me to get involved in any sort of "keeping the peace."

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 26 2020 01:40pm)

Wouldn't such an interpretation make any organized citizen mobilization in response to lawlessness inherently criminal?
That is after all pretty much the definition of a militia.
The mob isn't constrained by staying at their homes and attacking only people they can reach from their lawns. When they band together and target lone citizens, they have a number advantage.
Saying that people can't organize to defend themselves can have the same effect as saying they can't defend themselves, when an organized resistance is necessary.
The whole idea of forming militias and posses to defense against outlaws, well it might be anachronistic but it is American as apple pie.

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 26 2020 03:45pm)

I was speaking from an individual's point of view. Something like a neighborhood watch I think would have more responsibility in both directions. They can cover more ground but they would also have stricter rules of engagement (imminent threat sort of thing as well as a great relationship with law enforcement).

You're right that a militia is the natural extension of the right to assemble as well as the right to protect your community. Does a militia need to act in unison? Do they need to get approval from other members? I honestly don't know b/c it's not something one needs to think about haha.

Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 26 2020 01:34pm)

Be sure to raise your fist for blm
https://m.imgur.com/a8ngXGI

Quote (proccy @ Aug 26 2020 04:19pm)

what is even happening here

Quote (proccy @ 26 Aug 2020 17:19)

what is even happening here