to be fair if you consider gayness an infectious disease Pence has a lot of experience controlling the spread.

dumb tweets are dumb. what can you say

in realness, i don't think it matters who is heading it off. i doubt that changes any decisions made by the teams working on this.

and you think that creating a task force (of science deniers and appeasers) AFTER this has shown the potential for a global pandemic, somehow deserves credit - even though his previous actions severely limited america's response in the crucial early stage, and they keep messing up like: https://time.com/5792135/coronavirus-whistleblower-hhs-employees/

that's like firing all the prison guards, and when the inmates escape and start killing the public, you want credit for hiring a couple of priests to solve the problem by telling everyone it's not that bad - and probably god's will anyway...

except you're blowing it out of proportion. it's actually more like... firing a small team specifically from the executive branch, and then hiring a team that actually has a lab.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

even if CNN is just bashing Trump in this article, it still gives me what i need for this argument.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-diversity-obama/index.html


This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Feb 28 2020 08:52am

politicians get caught being hypocritical regularly, maybe 1-5 times a year. something they tweeted or said to media comes back to haunt them.

to trump it happens about 100 times per year. and isnt consistent on any topic, its a scattershot of him arguing against himself.

this team has a poorly appointed leader, depleted funding, and a potus who has said this shouldnt be the case. i think their depleted funding is about all that affects them majorly, but clear top down direction is still important.

that tweet isnt a very strong argument for trump as a potus, but the hundreds behind it show he wasnt ready and still isn't. he's a wallstreet stooge with false promises on a slew of blue collar topics that he's failed to deliver on. if your opinion of trump is that he's anything but a huckster and liar then you're wrong, and trump himself can prove it to you with his own tweets.

maybe you should read the whole article instead of exclusively focusing on the small part that you think benefits trump because without the context of his general approach to the cdc and corona in particular, it might not appear that significant. i mean, is there anything you would actually criticise him for without trying to give him credit for trying to APPEAR like he's covering up the mess he created in the first place?

what a world we live in, where people would defend that just because the guy responsible happens to belong to a party that they support. partisanship is killing even reason and common sense...

the first 3 lines i have nothing to argue against. you are giving him the blame on both sides though. was Trump correct in criticizing Obama, but wrong to appoint Pence? or vice-versa? or did both presidents make bad moves in appointments and Trump +1'd Obama with a dumb tweet?

he's completed a lot of these blue collar topics even if not everything has been completed.
i wouldn't say Trump's not a liar. i don't think he's very honest, however, i do find him rather genuine. and through all the bs of politics, he has completed things that directly effect my life and wallet in a positive way.

i'll point you to the Trump Policy thread that i've yet to complete. it directly contradicts your claim that he has failed to deliver. i'll also mind you that all of this was done without help from the House. (instead, constant opposition)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82567104&f=119


take your own advice. and perhaps try getting the info from somewhere other than Snopes. (just a recommendation)

typical trumpist response when they run out of arguments: "your source is fake news anyway"
well, there are links to several articles reporting about demonstrably correct descriptions of measures that trump's administration (often proudly) took in regards to the cdc. doesn't matter if you 'like' the source or not. you people...

both obama and trump were wrong.

outside of deporting a lot of illegal aliens and building 1/4 of a wall he's been a big swing and a miss on blue collar issues.

let down farmers, caused inflation/shrinkflation due to trade wars, failed to deliver on manufacturing jobs returning, hasn't bolstered the VA like he said he would, lied about being able to fix healthcare, and i u go sector by sector his job numbers arent proportionately bringing in blue collar jobs.

I love how this supposedly has "dAtA wItH a bEtTeR uPdAtE", when the source for that data update in the Wiki article itself IS the Johns Hopkins worldmap site. I mean, the footnote number next to the data on cases/deaths/etc literally links to the same site.