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Jul 26 2019 03:45pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 26 2019 09:14am)
I thought Trump supporters were supposed to be nationalists?


No longer a Trump supporter, so I guess I'll have to be a Russian nationalist.
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Jul 26 2019 04:01pm
Smells like impeachment today.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 26 2019 02:37pm)
There was plenty of evidence incriminating Hillary even after she destroyed some of it. What saved Hillary was loretta lynch.

Yes a suspect can destroy some evidence but the likelihood that one can just destroy all evidence (including witnesses?) is just bonkers. And if they are prosecuted you can just stack the obstruction on top of the charge.

If that wasnt the case, due process wouldnt be possible. Youre stretchng so far in this example its laughable. Its obvious that youre just the same as comey or mueller, you just dont like trump and want him taken down by whatever underhanded means you can muster.



Play stupid games win stupid prizes




Muh Hillary.
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Jul 26 2019 04:24pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 26 2019 06:18pm)
Muh Hillary.


You brought it up not me :wacko:
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Jul 27 2019 04:56am
i think the one thing we ALL can agree on is that russia meddled with the 2016 elections, right?

so why is it that mitch mcconell blocked efforts to secure elections against foreign meddling?

https://www.apnews.com/e8a907c09e24427c968f8e569ff3ddbc

i mean, it's actually pretty clear why, and mcconnell also gave it away by admitting that secure elections would favour democrats, but i'm wondering what the cult thinks about this.
is a slightly higher chance (assuming that russia, and not some other nation, will be the 'winner' of the 2020 meddling race) of the orange emperor getting a second term worth having your elections meddled with by a hostile foreign power? are massive voter suppression, gerrymandering, and the electoral college really not enough anymore? this approach not only seems very short-sighted, but also highly unpatriotic. so where are the people screaming 'treason' when an american congressperson wants to change the country for the better now?
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Jul 27 2019 05:18am
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i think the one thing we ALL can agree on is that russia meddled with the 2016 elections, right?

so why is it that mitch mcconell blocked efforts to secure elections against foreign meddling?

https://www.apnews.com/e8a907c09e24427c968f8e569ff3ddbc

i mean, it's actually pretty clear why, and mcconnell also gave it away by admitting that secure elections would favour democrats, but i'm wondering what the cult thinks about this.
is a slightly higher chance (assuming that russia, and not some other nation, will be the 'winner' of the 2020 meddling race) of the orange emperor getting a second term worth having your elections meddled with by a hostile foreign power? are massive voter suppression, gerrymandering, and the electoral college really not enough anymore? this approach not only seems very short-sighted, but also highly unpatriotic. so where are the people screaming 'treason' when an american congressperson wants to change the country for the better now?


the actual extent of russian meddling with the 2016 election is not as clear, nor is the impact of these attempts. facebook ads which targeted a couple tens of thousands of voters cant really be considered a serious meddling in a race where both the trump and clinton campaign spent tens of millions on online ads which reached hundreds of millions of voters, to name just one example.
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Jul 27 2019 05:33am
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the actual extent of russian meddling with the 2016 election is not as clear, nor is the impact of these attempts. facebook ads which targeted a couple tens of thousands of voters cant really be considered a serious meddling in a race where both the trump and clinton campaign spent tens of millions on online ads which reached hundreds of millions of voters, to name just one example.


and therefore 'it is fine' for mcconnell to outright block measures to secure elections, despite the senate intelligence committee's report detailing the extent of their meddling, and urging congress to take steps to secure vulnerable systems, in particular voting machines that don't produce paper records?
is that really what you're saying here, or are you simply trying to play down the meddling by russia because you feel it delegitimises your precious cult leader, because that's not really my point here.
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Jul 27 2019 05:37am
Quote (fender @ 27 Jul 2019 07:33)
and therefore 'it is fine' for mcconnell to outright block measures to secure elections, despite the senate intelligence committee's report detailing the extent of their meddling, and urging congress to take steps to secure vulnerable systems, in particular voting machines that don't produce paper records?
is that really what you're saying here, or are you simply trying to play down the meddling by russia because you feel it delegitimises your precious cult leader, because that's not really my point here.


Pres Obama said no reasonable person would think elections can be hacked. Only racists like you and privileged lefty (D) argue otherwise
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Jul 27 2019 09:49am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 27 Jul 2019 13:18)
the actual extent of russian meddling with the 2016 election is not as clear, nor is the impact of these attempts. facebook ads which targeted a couple tens of thousands of voters cant really be considered a serious meddling in a race where both the trump and clinton campaign spent tens of millions on online ads which reached hundreds of millions of voters, to name just one example.


and therefore 'it is fine' for mcconnell to outright block measures to secure elections, despite the republican lead senate intelligence committee's report detailing the extent of their meddling, and urging congress to take steps to secure vulnerable systems, in particular voting machines that don't produce paper records?

is that really what you're saying here, or are you simply trying to play down the meddling by russia because you feel it delegitimises the electoral college win of your precious cult leader, because that's not really my point here.
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Jul 27 2019 10:23am
Quote (fender @ 27 Jul 2019 17:49)
and therefore 'it is fine' for mcconnell to outright block measures to secure elections, despite the republican lead senate intelligence committee's report detailing the extent of their meddling, and urging congress to take steps to secure vulnerable systems, in particular voting machines that don't produce paper records?

is that really what you're saying here, or are you simply trying to play down the meddling by russia because you feel it delegitimises the electoral college win of your precious cult leader, because that's not really my point here.


I dont know the specifics of these allegations of ongoing russian attempts at meddling with US elections, and the viewpoint you espouse here might very well be biased.
But yes, if what you're saying is accurate and not just a ridiculous spin, then I see no reason or possible justification for McConnell's stonewalling. In this case, inaction would be inexcusable.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 27 2019 10:23am
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