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Sep 18 2018 02:41pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 18 2018 04:38pm)
can a brotha at least get some post numbers


I don't know where in 240 posts it is. But I do know that I pointed out quite clearly and loudly, that just in 2-3 days we have two conflicting accounts of what happened. Both by reporters ofc.
Neither by the officer.


Quote (KrWWW @ Sep 18 2018 04:38pm)
Beowulf is talking like a prosecutor, he should expect a lock of the charge he's filing...


Yeah, I keep trying to explain how he's not a prosecutor or similar, to no avail.



/e

Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 18 2018 04:38pm)
when you presented the "what if he said something to her in the elevator" situation?

please enlighten us with the scenario that would prevent her from getting charged with manslaughter, a simple link to your genius scenario would suffice.


No. That was just an example of the fact that we don't know wtf happened.

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Still waiting for someone clever to come up with a "Geiger Counter" joke to reference how toxic this debate will get
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I don't know where in 240 posts it is.


HA!
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I don't even see the reason for the debate. Is what WE decide going to affect what comes out of the trial? NO.
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Sep 18 2018 02:43pm
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I don't know where in 240 posts it is. But I do know that I pointed out quite clearly and loudly, that just in 2-3 days we have two conflicting accounts of what happened. Both by reporters ofc.
Neither by the officer.



Yeah, I keep trying to explain how he's not a prosecutor or similar, to no avail.


I'm just a dude that wants a system that deals in justice based on truth wherever that leads
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Sep 18 2018 02:45pm
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I don't even see the reason for the debate. Is what WE decide going to affect what comes out of the trial? NO.


How do you think cultural norms change over the years? It's from people in the society debating the merits of each others viewpoints.
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Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 18 2018 04:43pm)
I'm just a dude that wants a system that deals in justice based on truth wherever that leads




As are we all, hopefully. :)


/e

Quote (Kayeto @ Sep 18 2018 04:45pm)
How do you think cultural norms change over the years? It's from people in the society debating the merits of each others viewpoints.


Debating? Nah. Brutally gaining a position shift through verbal and physical abuse... yes. :)

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As are we all, hopefully. :)

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Sep 18 2018 02:50pm
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Let me ahve you walk in my PaRDian shoes for a moment.

Here's what I see on this sf. All but about 5-6 people, jump to conclusions at the drop of a hat. Even when it's pointed out to them, that no conclusions can be yet reached with the current evidence.
This happens so much on here, that newcomers to this sf would have to assume they were suddenly in China or some other repressive state.


/e Ofc, everyone jumps to their own conclusions on each issue. But the part I don't get is that you for example have held to manslaughter at the lest through this entire topic. With no proof.

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Let me ahve you walk in my PaRDian shoes for a moment.

Here's what I see on this sf. All but about 5-6 people, jump to conclusions at the drop of a hat. Even when it's pointed out to them, that no conclusions can be yet reached with the current evidence.
This happens so much on here, that newcomers to this sf would have to assume they were suddenly in China or some other repressive state.


I'm willing to change my mind at any time based on new evidence

I don't see the issue

If I was someone that wanted to lock up cops I wouldn't have said the minimum as my very first post in this thread before it became more clear it wasn't just an innocent mistake

and I still don't support a murder charge

she committed text book manslaughter that's just where the given evidence now sits
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