Actually, "relative" does not imply direction at all. You just don't understand frames of reference and relative velocities, and you completely misuse the word "relative". There's no such thing as "relative to a direction". Relative to the Earth, the air is stationary. Any object that is floating in air (like a hot air balloon) is also stationary relative to the Earth and to the air. There's no direction here, just objects. Relative to the Sun, both the Earth and its atmosphere are moving in the same way.

I'll take another shot at it. Let's say you are in a boat, going down a river. The engine is off, the boat is just going as fast as the speed of the current. This is a pretty fast river, let's say 100 mph. So the water is flowing at 100 mph, your boat is floating at 100 mph, everything's OK. Now you sit on the edge of the boat and stick your foot in the water. Is your foot going to get ripped off by 100 mph current? The water is flowing at 100 mph, remember? If someone is just standing around and you hit him with a jet of water at 100 mph, he's gonna get wrecked. What gives?

In a Closed environment you need a solid surface to make it a closed environment and the vacuum of space doesn't offer that and in all experiments a vacuum proves more powerful than gravity

So really if the earth is travelling that fast though space - the vacuum of space is far more powerful a force and the earth needs to resist it, earth is moving and the air is moving relative to its direction, the air is not just relative, but you will never accept anything unless your masters tell you what to believe.

No, you do not need a solid surface to have a FUNCTIONALLY closed environment.

so by throwing your phone into the air while running into the grocery store

youre saying that in 10 years the whole human race will be dead and rats will have gained sentience and control the world?

I knew it was a matter of time before your indoctrination would kick in, science wants you to not think its relative to direction , but of course it is - the earth is moving in a certain direction, the air is moving in that exact same direction - as proved by a hot air balloon with no relative velocity , but that concept breaks down when you consider an airplane traveling in any direction - sciences way to deal with this - frames of reference, so not admitting that air is relative to direction and that even though its moving, its not moving.

The air is either moving relative to the direction of the earth or its not. It cant be relative to the direction of the planet will also being relative to the direction of every plane. Does it not matter which direction the earth orbits the sun - or course not - it moves in a specific direction - it is not just relative to the sun - it is moving around the sun , to the east in a clockwise direction , a specific direction that does not change.

Relative in this case imply specific direction - the frames of reference argument is just to confuse you that it is not moving in a specific direction or that direction doesn't even matter.

My favorite argument about this is the scene from Chinatown - the "Im her sister/Im her mother argument" cause you cant be both - Haha - incest dummy!

Where I'm a - "The air is moving in a certain direction/The air is not moving in a certain direction" you cant have it both ways

Science removes the direction part - talks about frames of reference and has it both ways to explain what is just not movement of course - Haha incest of Logic - Science!



This post was edited by card_sultan on Oct 26 2016 06:26pm

the sun is flat

I... Yes? Maybe? What?!

I lost it at the bolds

Haha something can't be moving from one frame of reference and not moving from the other frame of reference coz that's be really hard for me to understand, way more likely that millions of people are involved in a conspiracy to trick you and I'm the only one here smart enough to figure it out

how the fuck yall getting trolled so badly