Arabs are 0.8% of the US pop

You're on a fail streak this week

Most American terror attacks are white right wingers..
If you include mass shooters it skews even more in that direction.
And if you want to stop the terror attacks you do get, pull the CIA out of the middle east.
At this point they have caused about a million deaths in the middle east, not exactly making any friends.
Should a family in Yemen consider a drone strike a terror attack ?

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Oct 18 2018 08:09am

Conditional probability is required to measure rates among populations of different sizes. If you do the math properly, Arabs are ten times more likely to Allahu your Akbar.

Our current strategy in the middle east is TOTAL ANNIHILATION and its been wildly successful. As I've said once, you're a lefty who got most of his opinions by parroting other people. In this situation, you don't actually know the basis of any of the information so you're cherrypicking to attack me.

i'm not sure an objective measure exists to substantiate that other than dead arabs. we certainly haven't won any wars, and the only pullout we've attempted have made it worse. Iraq is nowhere near having a legitimate government, and the Saudis and Iranians are in a war that's starting to look as perpetual as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. All while the arabs generally hold us over their knees on barrel prices. I don't support Trump's idea of seizing natural resources as spoils of war, but do recognize that at least that could be seen as an objective win. We've got nothing but subjective victories, permanent occupations, and CIA run shell governments out of our time in the middle east. GWB would have been better off subsidizing Venezuela after 9-11 and holding a complete embargo of OPEC.

Boom. All true.

ISIS fighters have been reduced from 40,000 to 1,000.

Gas prices dropped significantly in the past three months because Trump negotiated with OPEC to produce more oil, we are fine.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 18 2018 08:48am

the tank ones always get me

ISIS didn't exist a short time ago, before it did they were lauding the number of Al Queda fighters and commanders we killed.

You think it's hard to scrap up a 40-50k fighting force in one of these countries once a power vaccuum hits? We're not closer to preventing the next vaccuum once the next POTUS feels its politically expedient to pull out. We haven't won anything, and as i predicted all you have is a pile of dead arabs to show for your "winning".

GWB fucked up. Obama fucked up worse because he wanted his deathtoll low. Trump hasn't done anything different in terms of progress, just stagnation. Trump's entire focus in the middle east is sending Kushner to ineffectual meetings and rolling back Obama's failed plan with Iran.

At this point we have 2 "good" options:

1. Full on Japanese/German style occupation and rebuilding process

2. Leave outright and pull all oil cash from OPEC if terror attacks commence

neither of which is all that good.



frankly, while it's a positive, i dont see it as a cost effective or proportional reward for the hassle. we're actively squelching electric tech in an attempt to prop up the Saudis behind closed curtains and punish Venezuela to prove socialism doesnt work.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 18 2018 08:54am

We probably agree but our situation now is OK. The tl;dr is Plaguefears CIA tinfoil claim was bullshit.