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May 3 2016 04:30pm
Levin is losing it, won't even talk about Indiana :rofl:
E: spent 10 mins screaming about Rafael Cruz and Oswald. LMAO

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May 3 2016 04:30pm
Quote (Skinned @ 3 May 2016 17:28)
You underestimate The Don. We misunderestimated George Bush Jr too.


It's certainly been an unconventional cycle, but I don't see Trump overcoming the women, Black, and Hispanic votes that the Democrats have over him.
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May 3 2016 04:33pm
Quote (Skinned @ 3 May 2016 17:28)
You underestimate The Don. We misunderestimated George Bush Jr too.

I take them seriously and engage their ideas. It is the only way forward.


Plus George W. Bush was an establishment Republican who had broad support from Conservative voters.

Trump has neither of those things.

The GOP is not fully behind him, and though he will still get the majority of Conservatives to vote for him, there is still a sizeable NeverTrump crowd.

Combine these aspects with the 3 demographics I mentioned, and Trump has a low chance of being elected president.
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May 3 2016 05:03pm
so what's this ted cruz's dad is lee harvey oswald ? this guy really is satan and currently losing in the primary trumps @ 51% so far :)
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May 3 2016 05:08pm
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so what's this ted cruz's dad is lee harvey oswald ? this guy really is satan and currently losing in the primary trumps @ 51% so far :)


latest reports are Ted Cruz killed Tupac and Biggie with the same magic bullet
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May 3 2016 05:09pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ May 3 2016 01:54pm)
Democrats have three major demographics in their favor in November of 2016:

1) Women vote. 55% of women voted for Obama in 2012. That number probably goes up if any Democrat is facing Trump. Perhaps as high as 59% or 60%. And keep in mind, 53% of all voters in 2012 were women. Even a couple of percentage points is a huge gain for the Dems.

2) Hispanic vote. 71% of Hispanics voted for Obama in 2012. With Trump as the GOP nominee, that number probably goes up, too. Yes, Trump has won the Hispanic vote in some Republican primary states, but those are GOP primaries. In the general election, the Democrats will win the vast majority of Hispanic voters. Who knows how high it will be with Trump, but it's going to be higher than 71% - maybe as high as 76%-78% or even higher.

3) Black vote. 93% of Blacks voted for Obama in 2012. I think this number goes down, but not significantly. It will still probably be 90%, plus or minus one or maybe 2 percentage points. The Democrats got 90% of the Black vote in 2000 and 88% in 2004, and that was without a Black president running (Obama).

Behind those 3 demographics (plus the solid Liberal and establishment Democratic voting base), I just don't see how Trump gets enough voters to beat the Democrats. Many Conservatives are against Trump completely, so he can't even depend on his base to fully support him. I imagine most will come around and still vote for him, but he will probably lose at least some of the typical GOP base while not gaining in many other important areas.

So yeah, behind those 3 demographics, the Democrats are heavy favorites. Hillary, Sanders, Biden - I think all 3 could beat Trump in a general. Same with Cruz. With Kasich, I think HRC would beat him but Sanders or Biden might lose.

So if Trump is indeed the GOP nominee, the DNC should consider not nominating someone who might be indicted and auto-lose. Their demographics are solidly in their favor in 2016. It would be wise to monitor the current investigation around HRC and see how it might play out before they go all-in on her.


What makes you believe this when Kasich is nearly irrelevant when it comes to voting?
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May 3 2016 05:10pm
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latest reports are Ted Cruz killed Tupac and Biggie with the same magic bullet


Have we ruled out yet that he is or isnt a vampire? im leaning towards yes
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May 3 2016 05:14pm
Quote (stimpy6298 @ May 3 2016 05:10pm)
Have we ruled out yet that he is or isnt a vampire? im leaning towards yes


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May 3 2016 05:14pm

good for 9%

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/indiana
better source

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Quote (Beowulf @ May 3 2016 07:08pm)
latest reports are Ted Cruz killed Tupac and Biggie with the same magic bullet


...he was actually hiding in the grassy knoll on Trump's head .
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