Quote (Ghot @ Oct 10 2018 05:35pm)

California, aka it's Democrats are so full of shyt their eyes are brown. You'll need to sell that line, with about an oz. of good Cali budlage to convince anyone. :D

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 10 2018 08:37pm)

God, conservatives are so jealous of us here. It's really sad.

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Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 10 2018 08:37pm)

God, conservatives are so jealous of us here. It's really sad.

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 10 2018 05:35pm)

California, aka it's Democrats are so full of shyt their eyes are brown. You'll need to sell that line, with about an oz. of good Cali budlage to convince anyone. :D




/e



Little story for PaRD. When I got out of the military I was in California, and the girl I met in the military was "from" California and wanted to stay there near her family. So I said, OK by me.
I had a Pennsylvania drivers license and a govt. drivers license, and California "forced" me to get a California drivers license, if I wanted to stay in California, as a civilian for more than 30 days.

Thought that was a little weird, but I assumed they just wanted to keep track of people in their state. I went to the DMV and they required every fucking piece of ID I've ever had and bills proving I lived in Cali , proof of address etc. Now keep in mind I'm 50% German and 50% scots... just about as white boi as you could get. I also had zero police record. Zero bad "anything"" record, and a freshly minted Honorable Discharge from the service. Just about as squeaky clean as you can get in this country. I even had a passport as well, valid and up to date (for the service).

So how do 1500 non-citzens get registered to vote, just this year (between April 23 and Sept. 25) and the DMV knows about it...and we are "just now" hearing it?

https://apnews.com/f5f245dbff474013a5f4bda673818138


I mean when you consider all the crap I had to go through to get a license, it's seem to be a miracle that this could happen at the California, DMV. :lol:

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SECTION 1. Section 2262 of the Elections Code is amended to read:

2262. (a) The Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles shall establish the California New Motor Voter Program for the purpose of increasing opportunities for voter registration by any person who is qualified to be a voter under Section 2 of Article II of the California Constitution.
(b) This chapter shall not be construed as requiring the Department of Motor Vehicles to determine eligibility for voter registration and voting. The Secretary of State is solely responsible for determining eligibility for voter registration, voter preregistration, and voting.

SEC. 2. Section 2263 of the Elections Code is amended to read:

2263. (a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
(b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:
(A) Name.
(B) Date of birth.
(C) Either or both of the following, as contained in the department’s records:
(i) Residence address.
(ii) Mailing address.
(D) Digitized signature, as described in Section 12950.5 of the Vehicle Code.
(E) Telephone number, if available.
(F) Email address, if available.
(G) Language preference.
(H) Political party preference.
(I) Whether the person chooses to become a permanent vote by mail voter.
(J) Whether the person affirmatively declined to become registered or preregistered to vote during a transaction with the department.
(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101 and, as applicable, the preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.
(L) Other information specified in regulations implementing this chapter.
(2) (A) The department may provide the records described in paragraph (1) to the Secretary of State before the Secretary of State certifies that all of the conditions set forth in subdivision (e) of this section have been satisfied. Records provided pursuant to this paragraph shall only be used for purposes of outreach and education to eligible voters conducted by the Secretary of State.
(B) The Secretary shall provide materials created for purposes of outreach and education as described in this paragraph in languages other than English, as required by the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 10503).
(c) The Secretary of State shall not sell, transfer, or allow any third party access to the information acquired from the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to this chapter without approval of the department, except as permitted by this chapter and Section 2194.
(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.
(e) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall commence implementation of this section no later than one year after the Secretary of State certifies all of the following:
(1) The State has a statewide voter registration database that complies with the requirements of the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 20901 et seq.).
(2) The Legislature has appropriated the funds necessary for the Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles to implement and maintain the California New Motor Voter Program.
(3) The regulations required by Section 2270 have been adopted.
(f) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall not electronically provide records pursuant to this section that contain a home address designated as confidential pursuant to Section 1808.2, 1808.4, or 1808.6 of the Vehicle Code.

SEC. 3. Section 2265 of the Elections Code is amended to read:

2265. (a) The records of a person designated in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 shall constitute a completed affidavit of registration and the Secretary of State shall register the person to vote, or, as applicable, preregister the person to vote, unless any of the following conditions is satisfied:
(1) The person’s records, as described in Section 2263, reflect that he or she affirmatively declined to become registered or preregistered to vote during a transaction with the Department of Motor Vehicles.
(2) The person’s records, as described in Section 2263, do not reflect that he or she has attested to meeting all voter eligibility requirements specified in Section 2101 or, as applicable, all preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.
(3) The Secretary of State determines that the person is ineligible to vote or, as applicable, will be ineligible to vote when he or she reaches 18 years of age.
(b) If a person who is registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter does not provide a party preference, his or her party preference shall be designated as “Unknown” on a voter registration index under Article 5 (commencing with Section 2183) of Chapter 2, and he or she shall otherwise be treated as a “No Party Preference” voter.
(c) If the Secretary of State receives from the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 the records of a person who is currently registered to vote, the Secretary of State shall use the information in the records to update the voter’s registration information. If the Secretary of State does not receive information for the voter pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 for which space is provided on the affidavit of registration, but that information was provided in the voter’s previous affidavit of registration, the information from the voter’s previous affidavit of registration shall remain part of the voter’s record.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 10 2018 08:58pm)

So, it still is that difficult to get an ID here. I moved here from Florida and it was night and day. Florida is a walk in, walk out sort of deal. They didn't even take my previous state license. California DMVs are the most bureaucratic shitfests ever.

So how did .0000000000001% of new voter registrations from our newly passed motor voter law happen as they iron out kinks? I don't know. That number is statistically equivalent to zero.

And the great news is the DMV was monitoring it all along and even reported it themselves.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 10 2018 08:58pm)

So, it still is that difficult to get an ID here. I moved here from Florida and it was night and day. Florida is a walk in, walk out sort of deal. They didn't even take my previous state license. California DMVs are the most bureaucratic shitfests ever.

So how did .0000000000001% of new voter registrations from our newly passed motor voter law happen as they iron out kinks? I don't know. That number is statistically equivalent to zero.

And the great news is the DMV was monitoring it all along and even reported it themselves.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 10 2018 09:10pm)

Yea thats bullshit

California used to be red

Quote (Ghot @ Oct 10 2018 06:13pm)

Yeah, back during the gold rush, maybe. :D


/e I got there in 1979 and it was blue as... as... the Danube, back then. I have friends that lived there back in the 60's and it was a blue state than as well.