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May 3 2016 02:51pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ May 3 2016 12:42pm)
What do you estimate the odds of her getting indicted are?

Do you think the DNC is responsibly weighing this risk or not?

Do you think Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden are the more responsible nominations, considering both of them would also very likely beat Trump but aren't facing an indictment that could derail their camapigns?

I just think the Democrats have this election in the bag if Trump is the GOP nominee (well, unless of course their nominee gets indicted). The demographics (particularly women, Blacks, and Hispanics) overwhelmingly favor them no matter who they put out there.


no idea

at this stage I don't think sanders beats trump and hillary beat sanders so i would say they are doing what is best by not blocking their clear winner

sanders is worn down and let his campaign go to shit the silverback is a real threat in the general against him imo
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May 3 2016 02:53pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 3 2016 12:51pm)
no idea

at this stage I don't think sanders beats trump and hillary beat sanders so i would say they are doing what is best by not blocking their clear winner

sanders is worn down and let his campaign go to shit the silverback is a real threat in the general against him imo


I like how you use the term silverback which represents a proud, strong, alpha male as an insult for Donald Trump.
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May 3 2016 02:56pm
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I like how you use the term silverback which represents a proud, strong, alpha male as an insult for Donald Trump.


yeah I'm a positive and non cowardly person that leaves racism and sexism out of my nicknames for people
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May 3 2016 03:04pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 3 2016 12:56pm)
yeah I'm a positive and non cowardly person that leaves racism and sexism out of my nicknames for people

Crooked Hilary
Low energy Jeb
Lyin' Ted
Little Marco
Are these nicknames racist/sexist?
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May 3 2016 03:06pm
Quote (majorblood @ May 3 2016 01:04pm)
Crooked Hilary
Low energy Jeb
Lyin' Ted
Little Marco
Are these nicknames racist/sexist?


I've noticed you have left out the nicknames you know I am talking about

obviously I was wrong about trump supporters being cowardly
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May 3 2016 03:06pm
So what's trump projected to do in Indiana tonight?
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May 3 2016 03:07pm
Quote (Beowulf @ May 3 2016 01:06pm)
I've noticed you have left out the nicknames you know I am talking about

obviously I was wrong about trump supporters being cowardly


These are the nicknames Trump uses
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 3 2016 01:06pm)
So what's trump projected to do in Indiana tonight?


Win and keep winning

This post was edited by majorblood on May 3 2016 03:08pm
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May 3 2016 03:09pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 3 2016 04:06pm)
So what's trump projected to do in Indiana tonight?



The last poll I saw had trump ahead by 17 points
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May 3 2016 03:39pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 3 May 2016 13:06)
So what's trump projected to do in Indiana tonight?


Almost certain to win, and maybe by a huge margin.
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Quote (majorblood @ 3 May 2016 15:46)
I don't understand this reasoning when Donald Trump is on track to get the most votes out of any republican nominee in history. Any other person in this election cycle would do far worse than Trump vs Hilary and the votes prove it.
I think meme magic will have a strong role to play once the election moves on to focus on Trump vs. Hilary


Quote (Beowulf @ 3 May 2016 15:51)
no idea

at this stage I don't think sanders beats trump and hillary beat sanders so i would say they are doing what is best by not blocking their clear winner

sanders is worn down and let his campaign go to shit the silverback is a real threat in the general against him imo


Democrats have three major demographics in their favor in November of 2016:

1) Women vote. 55% of women voted for Obama in 2012. That number probably goes up if any Democrat is facing Trump. Perhaps as high as 59% or 60%. And keep in mind, 53% of all voters in 2012 were women. Even a couple of percentage points is a huge gain for the Dems.

2) Hispanic vote. 71% of Hispanics voted for Obama in 2012. With Trump as the GOP nominee, that number probably goes up, too. Yes, Trump has won the Hispanic vote in some Republican primary states, but those are GOP primaries. In the general election, the Democrats will win the vast majority of Hispanic voters. Who knows how high it will be with Trump, but it's going to be higher than 71% - maybe as high as 76%-78% or even higher.

3) Black vote. 93% of Blacks voted for Obama in 2012. I think this number goes down, but not significantly. It will still probably be 90%, plus or minus one or maybe 2 percentage points. The Democrats got 90% of the Black vote in 2000 and 88% in 2004, and that was without a Black president running (Obama).

Behind those 3 demographics (plus the solid Liberal and establishment Democratic voting base), I just don't see how Trump gets enough voters to beat the Democrats. Many Conservatives are against Trump completely, so he can't even depend on his base to fully support him. I imagine most will come around and still vote for him, but he will probably lose at least some of the typical GOP base while not gaining in many other important areas.

So yeah, behind those 3 demographics, the Democrats are heavy favorites. Hillary, Sanders, Biden - I think all 3 could beat Trump in a general. Same with Cruz. With Kasich, I think HRC would beat him but Sanders or Biden might lose.

So if Trump is indeed the GOP nominee, the DNC should consider not nominating someone who might be indicted and auto-lose. Their demographics are solidly in their favor in 2016. It would be wise to monitor the current investigation around HRC and see how it might play out before they go all-in on her.
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