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Aug 1 2024 02:22pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 1 2024 12:13am)
The initial version of Biden's Build Back Better bill came really close to being some take on the Green New Deal, and it got within 1-2 Senate votes of passing.
The green frenzy and the woke frenzy both peaked roughly in 2018-2022 and are currently receding, but the vast majority of national Democrats would have been on board with the GND during that time. So that whole "will never pass because far too extreme"-argument actually doesn't apply to the GND.

With Project 25, we can't really know. Let me put it like this: I highly doubt that you will ever find 48 GOP senators voting for a porn ban, lmao.


If you really don’t think the GOP will try to pass this stuff. Lol it’s literally the same thing
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Aug 1 2024 09:26pm
The memes are becoming reality again. The blood is ALIVE.



tl;dr Biden lost. video released 2 months ago.
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Aug 2 2024 12:24am


I don't really mind the LEFT (Dems) having crazy ideas. I do mind how they go about trying to get those ideas enacted.
They got no honor. :/
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Aug 2 2024 02:48am
"Is she Indian, or is she black?"

Is Trump throwing?
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Aug 2 2024 05:44am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 2 2024 04:48am)
"Is she Indian, or is she black?"

Is Trump throwing?


If you're not 100% pro Trump you are de facto a Kremlin shill.
Have you seen his peace plan for Ukraine? Increased sanctions, 500 billion in aid, wider access to American weaponry, etc.

You think Harris is gona stop the Russian war machine?
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Quote (zorzin @ Aug 2 2024 12:44pm)
If you're not 100% pro Trump you are de facto a Kremlin shill.
Have you seen his peace plan for Ukraine? Increased sanctions, 500 billion in aid, wider access to American weaponry, etc.

You think Harris is gona stop the Russian war machine?


The Russian war machine is stopping itself lol

The poorest nation in Europe stopped the Russian military.
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Aug 2 2024 08:33am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 2 2024 07:45am)
The Russian war machine is stopping itself lol

The poorest nation in Europe stopped the Russian military.


So, just to be clear, you're not in favour of Ukraine actually getting the means to stop russias advance?

500 billion gets you alot of himars.
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Aug 2 2024 08:55am
Quote (zorzin @ Aug 2 2024 04:33pm)
So, just to be clear, you're not in favour of Ukraine actually getting the means to stop russias advance?

500 billion gets you alot of himars.


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So, just to be clear, you're not in favour of Ukraine actually getting the means to stop russias advance?

500 billion gets you alot of himars.


Ukraine has already stopped Russias advance.
Unless we are pretending the incremental gains of a few kilometres in exchange for thousands of Russian casualties is meaningful advance.
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Aug 2 2024 09:39am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 2 2024 10:33am)
Ukraine has already stopped Russias advance.
Unless we are pretending the incremental gains of a few kilometres in exchange for thousands of Russian casualties is meaningful advance.


ukraine indeed stopped the advance towards Kyiv, but seems to have lost about equal territory in the east as a result. If Putin refocusses in the south of the country instead of pushing towards Kyiv i'm not confident that Ukraine could stop the advance. it would be slow to be sure, with lots of casualties on both sides, but it is possible.

really though the war of attrition now just points to Putin getting most of the areas he now occupies in any eventual peace agreement. with both sides so entrenched its unlikely the russians can ever be pushed back across the border. advancement may not even by something the russians are interested in. they're a squatter who came in and said he'd take your whole house. now you have to be happy with him taking the garage and staying there forever.

edit: east was west

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 2 2024 09:56am
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