Notice the "kill cops" spray painted, lol.

The faith literally misrepresents itself. Scaley don't make idiots burn Korans or hate gays. If you want to object to how your faith is perceived you'd be better off looking inward and maybe listen to the detractors.

Can't you imagine, for us non-religious people, what it is like to hear about several priests in our area being sexual deviants and preying on our children? We have two high school principles of Catholic schools here get nailed for pedophilia, and a couple other higher up people in the clergy, who were moved away and escaped punishment with the aid of the church years ago.

Hear about fuckers burning Korans and getting Americans killed overseas.

Every time a single suicide bomber annihiliates himself for the Greater Good or Absolute Truth of Religious Faith it is a reminder of what all religious faiths are capable of.

Yet we get to hear about how immoral we are because our moral system is based on reason, or ethics, or logic, or care and compassion, and not supernatural. We get to hear people make no sense as to why we aren't supposed to do what we're supposed to do. Nowhere in the Ten Commandments does it say "Thou Shall not be Gay" yet you fuckers act like it actually says it there in the biggest game of political pretend I've ever seen.

You guys say stupid things like "Protect Religion in America" when it comes to low-wage service employees getting free birth control from health care providers because it saves everybody cost and is the smart thing to do. And affects nobody but the health insurance provider and the person receiving services.

You guys get pissed off when your religious rights don't allow you to dominate and control the behaviors of other people and what you don't get to even control what civil rights others have. This is why nobody feels sorry for you when you act like you're picked on. Your not being picked on. Your religious faith is very aggressive, domineering, and authoritarian.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 19 2015 12:19pm

There's way too much to address here and frankly i don't have the will to do it right now but you as always attach nonsensical, fringe issue and apply it to the hundreds of millions of people.

-Christians don't strap bombs to themselves and blow people up in the name of God so why even bring that up?

-What some perverted Catholic priests do are not representative of what we stand for. (I'm not even Catholic i'm a protestant when's the last time you heard of a protestant preacher doing that, oh never? oh ok )

-Just because we have a different view on social issues leftist have started employing fascist-like methods to erode dissent.

-The 10 commandments were given to the Jewish people; Christians unlike the Jews are not bound by law which by design was given to reveal sin, but instead we follow after Christ and are justified by faith.

-You have no idea what Christianity stands for; I doubt you ever read the Bible for more than 5 minutes. If you did you would realize how contrary it is to all the nonsense you attach to it.

-On this forum, which is a pretty good representation of the general populous, Christians are always on the defensive end while atheists/secularist constantly have the need to mock/scoff/laugh at Christianity. What is it about Christianity that so deeply offends you guys?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 19 2015 12:37pm

Lol you can't be serious. I notice you didn't respond to my post either keep living in your idealized world where everyone who disagrees with you is the bad guy.

I didn't see your reply. And this is something a lot of non Christians simply don't understand. For me and millions of others, Christianity is not religion something ritualistic that you do on Sundays, maybe light a candle and utter a fast prayer. For many of us it is a way of life, it is our everything, we view the world through a Christian lens. I identify myself Christian and hold that ideal above all else. It's not something i can change about myself it's part of my being and i would never want to go back to living a life of vanity without God.

Also i don't view people that disagree with me as bad guys just when people slander Christianity i take it personally, i can't help it. I like healthy disagreement, it promotes all of us to refine our positions

I've been nothing but respectful of Christianity and Christians in my time here which is why it annoys me when people make these generalizations that paint me in a bad light. It happens all the time in pard.

i suggest not try to be a politician

lmao

yeah offensive. So when users like Thor try to argue with you guys that some things don't add up in the bible and even give you verses; that must really offend you huh? Or do you interpret his analysis as him mocking so you can dismiss it?

Yes Scaly does bash on certain people (for example that earthquake in Nepal, I didn't find his comments appropriate when he called the place a shit hole). But at times he tries to be civil, at least he isn't as insidious as some of you guys.

Also yes its true Christianity doesn't stand for those things. Yet a lot of the issues he described are propagated by religious faith, like he mentioned. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would say that the priest thing is a bit iffy, just because even on the priests end it must very difficult to stay ascetic. I read a study somewhere (If I find it i will edit post to link) that talks about how that extreme abstinence might lead them to abusing kids, even though they themselves might not actually be attracted to them. As much as I respect their decision on the abstinence, they can't fight human nature and should work towards it in some way without harming the faith.

I find atheists don't like many religious people, because a lot of them (and you guys are not representation of these people, since most of the people here do have their own thoughts) carry that herd mentality and don't look into things and are rather proud of this ignorance.

What's offensive about Christianity is less the religion and more the people using it to further their own agendas. Just because Christians don't strap bombs to themselves and blow up (which btw everyone attributes to muslims, but it was actually tamil tigers who used to do this) somehow justifies the atrocities they do commit and have in the past? Don't play dumb here. Most people on this forum really do follow that quote "The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must". While I think child molesting priests should get some help, why is it that they can get off the hook; while other child molesters can't? Church has power

There is so much wrong in this post that I don't even know where to begin.

--You obviously didn't read the first sentence on my post. I said from an outsiders perspective, not Ofthevoid is a suicide bomber. There have been plenty of Christian martyrs, deny this? Other religously motivated crimes? I'm not trying to knit pick, but the first post obviously went over your head. I was talking about the secular vs. religious dichotomy. Secular people just want to live in their mild hedonism and be left alone. Religious people prescribe a doctrine to live by and many feel compelled to spread that even if that isn't particularly wanted from them.

--The Catholic thing is just an example of the Church's contempt for positive law and the actual law of nations. I hate bringing it up because it is so personal to me and seems like a cheap shot to the faith, but as a critic I would be remiss if I didn't include it.

--What fascist like methods? Have we loaded people up on trains and gassed them? Have armies of paramilitary brown coats gone to businesses and shut them down through violence? Have we led a campaign of political murders to impose our own rule of law? Fascist methods like using the law to say that a certain person can shop at a certain store and actually give the business their money? What a momentous insensitive and ignorant thing to say to compare the push for equality for all and equal protections under the law to fascism. When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

--Okay, now the 10 Commandments aren't for Christians. I love how relativistic you guys have become. You used to have an objective law, and you've over the years degenerated into a fractious little groups that all disagree on what you guys actually are. All you guys can seem to agree on is the polytheistic aspects of the faith and the original string of absurdities that form your basic creation myth historically based on the Hero Patterns of culture discovered by Lord Raglan. Only the Greeks never took their tragedies as literal acts that actually happened.

--Bookshelf says I've read a lot about this stuff



Where is your literature review?

--You think this forum is a pretty good representation of the general public? LMFAO This Ron Paul presidency has been going so well

There would be 40 democrats, 30 republicans, 29 independents, .75 of a libertarian, and .25 of a socialist if that were true.

Quit acting like your faith is picked on. Your rules are on the state houses and you've been running the show at this point for centuries. It is ridiculous.