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Oct 17 2023 02:15pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 17 Oct 2023 22:11)
LMAO :rofl:



fenderp is just desperate to defend even the worst trash to somehow make a case against the civilized world

he picks a "victim" of some alleged discrimination etc with (usually) white people being the bad guys and then makes up random shit

in this case: trying to sound "reasonable" while speaking like the hamas twitter account


oh look, our resident islamophobe and apartheid fan is back to talk about me and spread their usual lies and misrepresentations.

keep de-humanising people (immigrants, muslims, africans, lgbtq members...) - totally not the sign of a genocidal bigot...
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Oct 17 2023 02:18pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 17 2023 10:08pm)
Actually there is nothing for me personally to deal with. You should try to be less emotional while posting, or if you can't then don't post.
The same two wrongs make a right logic that pro kremlin shills use.

I'd ask whether you believe an innocent Palestinian life is equal to an innocent Israeli life? Would you agree both are equal or not?


every innocent life on the planet is equal to one another no matter the color, religion, gender, history, geographic place on earth or w\e.
im not being emotional beyond a perfectly normal level. i come here to comment when i got spared time and that happens once every several years. this is how i comment\speak and it is what it is, im fine with people translating it into emotional.

now to my question in regard of the hospital incident, where i already knew what happened and i already know for decades that Hamas can and will kill his own people for the sake of his intentions.

my question to you - why did you post without any proof ( just some information came to you ) that this is how we defend ourselves ? clearly, you don't care enough to investigate, check, think it over etc.
so you are biased and taking a side without considering to check facts ? would you agree ?

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Oct 17 2023 02:20pm
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rebuilding all of gaza would be like 8 bil, and bahrain would pay for it. hamas said no kek.
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Oct 17 2023 02:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 17 2023 09:11pm)
Honest question, if the IDF stopped all bombing, like literally zero more bombs, but kept up the blockade of Gaza, how would that change your opinion of the situation?

i'd personally be all for it. give them water, give them electricity, let only food through, and only invade on foot if action is needed. but that wont appease the #FREEPALESTINE hard liners.


It would be easy for me to say an end to all fighting is the solution. That's not realistic.
And also from an Israelis point of view, I imagine they believe they are in an existential struggle. They have been attacked in a barbaric way. There is also the vector that they have to send a message to Hezbollah, Iran and other potential detractors.

Unfortunately a proportional response would be perceived as a weakness in the region.

Its interesting that Israel is attacked brutally and they have experienced an existential crisis. Some people will deride Hamas and give the green light to Israel for any level of retribution; But they don't apply the same logic to Ukraine. A country that has experienced a very similar level of violence and existential danger.

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Oct 17 2023 02:24pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 17 2023 03:09pm)
piss off, jew hating nazi. i'm not your ally. i want the israeli people AND the palestinians to live in peace and freedom.


All to easy.

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Oct 17 2023 02:26pm
Quote (darksoho @ Oct 17 2023 09:18pm)
every innocent life on the planet is equal to one another no matter the color, religion, gender, history, geographic place on earth or w\e.
im not being emotional beyond a perfectly normal level. i come here to comment when i got spared time and that happens once every several years. this is how i comment\speak and it is what it is, im fine with people translating it into emotional.

now to my question in regard of the hospital incident, where i already knew what happened and i already know for decades that Hamas can and will kill his own people for the sake of his intentions.

my question to you - why did you post without any proof ( just some information came to you ) that this is how we defend ourselves ? clearly, you don't care enough to investigate, check, think it over etc.
so you are biased and taking a side without considering to check facts ? would you agree ?


I am seeing the dozens of media reports against the single claim from the IDF that it was a Hamas rocket.

I clearly don't know for certain what happened, and neither do you. Unless you want to provide your evidence?

Also, I'm no expert but a rocket from Hamas is unlikely to have the power to floor an entire hospital. Whereas the guided bombs we have seen dropped consistently over the last days, clearly have that power. Don't you agree its unlikely a single rocket caused that amount of destruction?
Don't you also agree that the IDF would have a motive to deny it was them?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 17 2023 02:28pm
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Oct 17 2023 02:27pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 17 2023 10:15pm)
oh look, our resident islamophobe and apartheid fan is back to talk about me and spread their usual lies and misrepresentations.

keep de-humanising people (immigrants, muslims, africans, lgbtq members...) - totally not the sign of a genocidal bigot...


people are dehumanising themselves with their actions, i am just an observer

and aside from leftie hamas sympathiser apartheid nonsense.....no civilized person would want to live anywhere near these people

as pointed out by multiple guys here with historic facts, even their muslim "brothers" and neighbors dont want them in their countries

they are only useful idiots to attack israel and kill jews

but hey, keep telling us how you out of all people know more about the topic than people, who have been on the ground

most of the muslim world and the immigrants around the world have shown their true colors (again) and you still defend that shit :rofl:

your multicultural utopia nonsense is burning in the streets right now lmao, stay mad
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Oct 17 2023 02:28pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 17 2023 03:23pm)
It would be easy for me to say an end to all fighting is the solution. That's not realistic.
And also from an Israelis point of view, I imagine they believe they are in an existential struggle. They have been attacked in a barbaric way. There is also the vector that they have to send a message to Hezbollah, Iran and other potential detractors.

Unfortunately a proportional response would be perceived as a weakness in the region.

Its interesting that Israel is attacked brutally and they have experienced an existential crisis. Some people will deride Hamas and give the green light to Israel for any level of retribution; But they don't apply the same logic to Ukraine. A country that has experienced a very similar level of violence and existential danger.


its apples and oranges. let's say Ukraine goes belly up and surrenders. Putin rolls in, arrests prosecutes and executes a small number of officials. or just jails forever most of them. those ukrainian people in the east likely become russian. the ukrainians in the west stay ukranian under a new putin puppet govt. there would be no genocide after a surrender.

if hamas had its way literally every israeli would be dead. every man, woman, and child. all dead to the last jew.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 17 2023 04:22pm)
Many refugees do actually have the luxury of choice and precisely for the reasons you mentioned choose to go the lands that will give them cushy aid and not stick around in the first place they are safe. Not all those countries around there are dumps that wouldn't be able to help. The gulf Arabs have higher living standards than us living in the west. You're telling me UAE, Qatar, SA, Bahrain, can't lift a finger and take in some people? Many of them also played a role in some of these wars. Not trying to go into too much detail but Syria for example, was mainly a war between the ruling Shiites, which remained in power and rebel Sunni groups backed armed and funded by Wahhabist SA and the other gulf rich nations, including the Turks (obviously we also also supported many of these rebels). So they do bare some of the brunt.

To me it's highly hypocritical for many of these surrounding countries to be the first to sound the alarm and be critical of Israeli actions yet do so very little to support fellow Muslim refugees or even make serious attempts to diffuse the situation by at the very least acknowledging Israel's right to exist.

Edit: But I do agree with you on the fact that our interference in the region has been a net negative and we're probably at least somewhat responsible for the shit show.


They don't have choice if countries won't accept them though, I dont really see how that works? They choose between who will accept them and within those choices they generally select the ones which will benefit them and their families the most. Doubt Poland was on the list for example.

Maybe the quality of life is better in some of those countries because they aren't funding endless foreign wars and accepting the inevitable hordes of refugees that result from them. Anyone could lift a finger and help these people, doesn't meant it is a good choice or that it wouldn't take resources away from other projects/interests. Especially considering the west willingly takes these people on masse, why would they volunteer? If say 200k civilians showed up starving on their border the situation would be different. I'm sure many countries in the area have been involved in many of the conflicts but IMO the force that causes the most amount of refugees is the US and their proxies.

Why is it hypocritical if the potential refugees are a direct result of ongoing actions being taken by Israel? I know Turkey and Egypt are at least trying to send aid (stuck at border last I saw, tons of trucks loaded up though) not sure about others, haven't checked.

What does acknowledging their right to exist mean, recognizing them as a country? I'm pretty sure that whole issues hinges around the historical and ongoing displacement of Palestinians so I don't know why they would recognize Israel in this situation, but maybe I misunderstood.
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