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Aug 21 2018 04:15pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Aug 21 2018 05:55pm)
Odds on Trump having a full term just fell from 80/20 to 60/40.


I could see him resigning/maybe even gettint impeached in 2019 if the dems take the house and Mueller finds something we aren't aware of yet.
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Aug 21 2018 04:20pm
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Odds on Trump having a full term just fell from 80/20 to 60/40.


Yikes.

Mueller is going to derail Trump's presidency one way or another.

People are too obsessed with impeachment. Regardless of Congressional impeachment or not, Trump has lost control of the narrative.
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Aug 21 2018 04:29pm
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Yikes.

Mueller is going to derail Trump's presidency one way or another.

People are too obsessed with impeachment. Regardless of Congressional impeachment or not, Trump has lost control of the narrative.




You can hope. :)

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Aug 21 2018 04:51pm
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Comments are pathetic.
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Quite a low bar you set, ghot.
Only guilty on 8 counts! Witch hunt!!
Manafort is a piece of shit.
The fuck you defending him for
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Aug 21 2018 04:57pm
Quote (chemoshots @ Aug 21 2018 06:53pm)
Quite a low bar you set, ghot.
Only guilty on 8 counts! Witch hunt!!
Manafort is a piece of shit.
The fuck you defending him for




Only found guilty on 8 of 18 counts. Then it gets even better...

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Also on Tuesday, a jury in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia found former Trump election campaign chairman Paul Manafort, guilty on eight of 18 charges of filing false tax returns, failing to disclose his offshore bank accounts and bank fraud. The judge declared a mistrial on the remaining 10 counts and gave prosecutors until Aug. 29 to decide whether to retry him on the deadlocked charges. Manafort still faces separate charges brought by Mueller in federal court in Washington.


I'm not sure a judge can declare a mistrial (to avoid double jeopardy), unless there actually is grounds for a mistrial.
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Aug 21 2018 05:01pm
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Only found guilty on 8 of 18 counts. Then it gets even better...



I'm not sure a judge can declare a mistrial (to avoid double jeopardy), unless there actually is grounds for a mistrial.



I'm sure the judge who's got the eyes of the whole press on him is going to forget what he can or cannot do. And I'm also sure the defense attorney(s) conveniently forget to object because they too have forgotten what can be done in matters of law.

Ghot the legal expert has doubts though.

:)

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I'm sure the judge who's got the eyes of the whole press on him is going to forget what he can or cannot do. And I'm also sure the defense attorney(s) conveniently forget to object because they too have forgotten what can be done in matters of law.

Ghot the legal expert has doubts though.

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Defense attorneys can't object to what a judge says. Just to other attorneys.

Double jeopardy says you can't try a person twice for the same crime. The jury after 4 days only found Manafort guilty of 8 of 18 crimes.
So the judge declares a mistrial and gives the prosecutors until the 29th of August to decide if they want to retry Manafort for the other 10 counts. If the judge declares anything BUT a mistrial he can't retry Manafort.

I'm kind of curious about whether he declared a mistrial for a valid reason, or not. I'm pretty sure the supreme court will be curious as well.
There seems to be a lot of iffy shyt going down in the courts right now...that the Supreme Court is NOT convened.



/e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause

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The Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides: "[N]or shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb..."[1] The four essential protections included are prohibitions against, for the same offense:

retrial after an acquittal;
retrial after a conviction;
retrial after certain mistrials; and
multiple punishment

Jeopardy attaches in jury trial when the jury is empaneled and sworn in, in a bench trial when the court begins to hear evidence after the first witness is sworn in, or when a court accepts a defendant's plea unconditionally.[2] Jeopardy does not attach in a retrial of a conviction that was reversed on appeal on procedural grounds (as opposed to evidentiary insufficiency grounds), in a retrial for which "manifest necessity" has been shown following a mistrial, and in the seating of another grand jury if the prior one refuses to return an indictment.


This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 21 2018 05:16pm
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Aug 21 2018 05:18pm
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I'm kind of curious about whether he declared a mistrial for a valid reason, or not. I'm pretty sure the supreme court will be curious as well.
There seems to be a lot of iffy shyt going down in the courts right now...that the Supreme Court is NOT convened.

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You're a hilarious person to watch completely flip and flop from thread to thread as a complete hack
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