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Aug 21 2018 11:58am
Quote (fender @ Aug 21 2018 11:53am)
the funny thing is, the spelling mistake was just a little side remark, the main point was that you made yet another completely unprovoked off topic post with some lazy nazi innuendo because you just can't let go of your butthurt towards me.

you were the one who made it all about the obvious spelling mistake, probably to deflect from the main issue, and because it's apparently just physically impossible for you to admit you made a mistake...


i wasn't deflecting from my cheap jibe at your nazi heritage, i didn't disagree with that part at all so i let it stand. it was a cheap jibe with almost no originality at all. literally the only part i even put a second of thought into was using the V instead of a W, thus we're talking about it. the funny thing is that i often admit when i make mistakes, i did it in this thread in a roundabout way by congratulating frenchie on winning the cheese crown this year, even if Wisconsin destroyed France in overall medals. you insisting on me making a spelling mistake is odd. i dont get that part.

i know your grandpa wasn't a nazi, he ran from the nazis. you know i know this, and yet you cant help yourself from responding. why?

have you seen Beerfest?

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Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Aug 2018 18:58)
i wasn't deflecting from my cheap jibe at your nazi heritage, i didn't disagree with that part at all so i let it stand. it was a cheap jibe with almost no originality at all. literally the only part i even put a second of thought into was using the V instead of a W, thus we're talking about it. the funny thing is that i often admit when i make mistakes, i did it in this thread in a roundabout way by congratulating frenchie on winning the cheese crown this year, even if Wisconsin destroyed France in overall medals. you insisting on me making a spelling mistake is odd. i dont get that part.

i know your grandpa wasn't a nazi, he ran from the nazis. you know i know this, and yet you cant help yourself from responding. why?

have you seen Beerfest?


oh, i ignore your silly little posts plenty of times - and i know you know this. sometimes thought, i like to remind you of how pathetic and unoriginal it is what you're doing.

i'm just wondering, if your public conclusion is that i just can't help myself from responding (obviously alluding to the old 'trolling' excuse), what does it say about my mere presence triggering these posts from you in the first place? maybe give THAT some thought as well, because the chicken - egg dilemma is pretty clear in this case...


not that i expect anything from it. after all, there is a certain type of people who just hold on to grudges no matter what. just take your mate exshillence for example: i haven't responded to any of his provokations for maybe a year now, and still he follows me around like an angry little poodle whose balls i kicked too hard once upon a time... you don't seem much different to me to be honest, i'm sure you'll never move on either, so why not challenge your ego once in a while to watch you squirm a bit?

and no, i haven't watched 'beerfest'. i just looked it up on imdb though and it's probably not my cup of tea (pun intended). to each their own though.
just a word of friendly advice: if you want to present something like this as evidence for a point you made, it helps if you got your story straight in the first place, and not a bunch of excuses that contradict one another, and pivots concerning a simple spelling mistake...
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Aug 21 2018 12:54pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ 21 Aug 2018 05:43)
People have already forgotten the damage that George W. Bush did to this country. They think that because he is a nice guy, it excuses the war crimes he committed, the surveillance apparatus he helped establish, and the lies he told the American people about Iraq, as well as pushing for the war in the first place.

Since W. is a genuinely nice guy and isn't as bad as Trump, he's off the hook for a lot of folks. In that sense, the Trump presidency is the best thing that ever happened to George W. Bush.

I still have W. Bush rated as a worse president than Trump. But I think Trump has done more damage to the GOP brand due to his character flaws and style. I could see the PR damage lasting 10-20 years beyond his presidency, at least.


I agree that Bush did more damage to the country than Trump has done (so far), but that Trump did probably more harm to the republican brand. And he really deprived the Presidency of its mystique... which actually might be a good thing. The presidency has become more and more powerful in recent decades, and bringing the office back down to earth might be good for democracy.

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Quote (djman72 @ 21 Aug 2018 13:46)
When i drive north to the land of the cheese, I buy many a cases of spotted cow. I wouldn't say it's the best beer out there, but it's damn good. I save half myself and drop off the other half as gifts.

Beer, Cheese, and encased meats. It's magical. Also, a stop at The Brat Staaaaap is always in order. Breakfast sammy, home fries, and a gin & soda @ 8 AM before we tee off.

i recall flying through wisconsin on a trip last year and snipa recommended spotted cow so i had a couple pints during a layover. Pretty good stuff

also lol at snipa slapping around poor heinrich von goebbels. his national-socalist relative getting shipped back to germany must have really bamboozled him

only time other he’s been this level of mad was when he rage pmed me a list of demands, including to address him as a national-socialist. he then copy-pasted his rage and pmed multiple people (including dro) the same thing.

a german lashing out at brits and yanks. at least he is consistent with his ancestors behavior. the hatred and provocation flows through heinrich’s veins

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Quote (fender @ Aug 21 2018 12:42pm)
oh, i ignore your silly little posts plenty of times - and i know you know this. sometimes thought, i like to remind you of how pathetic and unoriginal it is what you're doing.

i'm just wondering, if your public conclusion is that i just can't help myself from responding (obviously alluding to the old 'trolling' excuse), what does it say about my mere presence triggering these posts from you in the first place? maybe give THAT some thought as well, because the chicken - egg dilemma is pretty clear in this case...


not that i expect anything from it. after all, there is a certain type of people who just hold on to grudges no matter what. just take your mate exshillence for example: i haven't responded to any of his provokations for maybe a year now, and still he follows me around like an angry little poodle whose balls i kicked too hard once upon a time... you don't seem much different to me to be honest, i'm sure you'll never move on either, so why not challenge your ego once in a while to watch you squirm a bit?

and no, i haven't watched 'beerfest'. i just looked it up on imdb though and it's probably not my cup of tea (pun intended). to each their own though.
just a word of friendly advice: if you want to present something like this as evidence for a point you made, it helps if you got your story straight in the first place, and not a bunch of excuses that contradict one another, and pivots concerning a simple spelling mistake...


nice spelling mistake, if you'd like to focus on that i wont mind.

my pieces of evidence are "contradictory" because i spelled it wrong, on purpose, to match the pronunciation, which is pronounced incorrectly here, and "correctly" over there. these aren't contradictory, they're regional differences that made up the now sufficiently overexplained simple joke you still seem to be implying i made a mistake on, which i did, if you consider only one of the cases i just listed. it was spelled wrong, aka a mistake, to match the correct pronunciation, which is only "correct" based on where you live. to make it even more complicated half of the people in my area pronounce it "correct" like you germans, while half insist on pronouncing it in the americanized way. if you still need me to overexplain it some more i can, but i'll give you some advice, just claim im desperate and trying to dig out of a mistake. maybe frenchie will come along to give your head a pat.

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i recall flying through wisconsin on a trip last year and snipa recommended spotted cow so i had a couple pints during a layover. Pretty good stuff

also lol at snipa slapping around poor heinrich von goebbels. his national-socalist relative getting shipped back to germany must have really bamboozled him


beer snobs turn their nose up at a simple pilsner but it really does beat the hell out of all other "standard" beers

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Aug 21 2018 01:15pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Aug 2018 15:02)
nice spelling mistake, if you'd like to focus on that i wont mind.

my pieces of evidence are "contradictory" because i spelled it wrong, on purpose, to match the pronunciation, which is pronounced incorrectly here, and "correctly" over there. these aren't contradictory, they're regional differences that made up the now sufficiently overexplained simple joke you still seem to be implying i made a mistake on, which i did, if you consider only one of the cases i just listed. it was spelled wrong, aka a mistake, to match the correct pronunciation, which is only "correct" based on where you live. to make it even more complicated half of the people in my area pronounce it "correct" like you germans, while half insist on pronouncing it in the americanized way. if you still need me to overexplain it some more i can, but i'll give you some advice, just claim im desperate and trying to dig out of a mistake. maybe frenchie will come along to give your head a pat.



beer snobs turn their nose up at a simple pilsner but it really does beat the hell out of all other "standard" beers


found heinrich’s twitter

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Aug 21 2018 01:16pm
Quote (excellence @ Aug 21 2018 02:02pm)
i recall flying through wisconsin on a trip last year and snipa recommended spotted cow so i had a couple pints during a layover. Pretty good stuff

also lol at snipa slapping around poor heinrich von goebbels. his national-socalist relative getting shipped back to germany must have really bamboozled him

only time other he’s been this level of mad was when he rage pmed me a list of demands, including to address him as a national-socialist. he then copy-pasted his rage and pmed multiple people (including dro) the same thing.

a german lashing out at brits and yanks. at least he is consistent with his ancestors behavior. the hatred and provocation flows through heinrich’s veins


Fender = Rage. We know this.

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Quote (ThatAlex @ 21 Aug 2018 05:11)
"Pollsters: Trump and GOP are losing young, female voters permanently"

http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/402705-pollsters-trump-and-gop-are-losing-young-female-voters

Sometimes I think we get too caught up in the moment- the next news cycle, the next midterm election, the next presidential election - and lose sight of the bigger picture.

What effect do y'all think Trump will have on American voters long-term?

Sure, he's got really good approval ratings with Republicans right now (of which baby boomers make up a decent percentage), but what kind of PR damage could he be doing to the GOP brand in the long-term?

Personally, I was pretty surprised by how fast the country moved on from the disaster of George W. Bush, so it wouldn't surprise me to see people forget about Trump in 10-20 years. That said, Trump is different than W. I think the damage will be greater.


it's an interesting point to make. there has been a great article in the nytimes' upshot back in 2014 on how one's political views are formed mostly during the age of roughly 14-24 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/08/upshot/how-the-year-you-were-born-influences-your-politics.html

the article has a great visualization of the development of party preference over the various age cohorts' life. for example, the silent generation, who mostly came of age during the prosperous and calm Eisenhower-years, have been leaning strongly towards republicans for the rest of their lives, just like baby boomers, who came of age during the height of the civil rights movement, the hippie culture and then the nixon years, have tilted towards democrats for the rest of their lives.

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in this sense, it has to be expected that the same pattern will also hold true for (younger) millenials and generation Z. however, it should be noted that the country isnt dominated by one party or the other right now. we dont have a huge blue or red wave that persists for an entire generation, like what we had with FDR, Eisenhower, Johnson or Reagan. the country is roooughly split 50-50, and has been ever since 2000. hence, what I expect to be the major long-term impact of the Trump presidency on voters is that it reinforces the trenches, the polarization.

but we shouldnt blame the polarization exclusively on Trump - he could only become president thanks to preexisting, deep divisions in the country. he is a result and an amplifier of our polarization. identity politics is really at the root of this polarization, and it has been embraced by both parties for decades. identity politics are a cancer that must be erradicated for the country to move forward. pitting whites and nonwhites, rurals and urbanites, working-class and college-educated, males and females against each other in increasingly toxic fashion is a recipe for disaster.

it's also mentioned in the article you linked:

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"When you ask millennial women who are likely voters, about 65, 68 percent would actually vote for a Democrat in the generic congressional race, so that puts them as base Democratic voters," [...]

"I think we're seeing something pretty unique among young women here, separate from young men. We're seeing a growing gender divide among this age group, and I think a lot of this has to do with Trump, but not exclusively,"


by doubling down on the current, anti-male brand of feminism, the democratic party risks alienating millenial men the same way the GOP risks losing millenial women.
And of course it has to be noted that women have always been more liberal than men, and younger voters have always tended to be more liberal than older voters. so democrats having a two-to-one edge on young women at a moment with an historically unpopular republican president in the whtie house who's constantly getting bad news cycles isnt too surprising to me, and shouldnt be overrated if you ask me.


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"So, not only in this moment are these millennial women heavily, heavily Democratic and heavily hostile to Trump, but it's likely that they are going to sort of be the vanguard of, I think, the feminization of the Democratic Party," she said.


to quote excellence:


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Quote (excellence @ Aug 21 2018 02:15pm)
found heinrich’s twitter

https://i.redd.it/q0d1zwfrbgh11.jpg


Holy shit that is a 10/10 tweet.

Those Antifa twats will have an aneurysm when they read that tweet Might even have a bout' with spontaneous combustion.

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Aug 21 2018 01:21pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Aug 2018 20:02)
nice spelling mistake, if you'd like to focus on that i wont mind.


*won't
if i were you, i wouldn't go down that road. you'd be confronted with a couple of uncomfortable truths that might rock your ego considerably, like your struggle with "its" and "it's", or your frequent and incorrect use of apostrophes on plurals. there's a difference between typos and poor grammar, you know?

Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Aug 2018 20:02)
my pieces of evidence are "contradictory" because i spelled it wrong, on purpose, to match the pronunciation, which is pronounced incorrectly here, and "correctly" over there. these aren't contradictory, they're regional differences that made up the now sufficiently overexplained simple joke you still seem to be implying i made a mistake on, which i did, if you consider only one of the cases i just listed. it was spelled wrong, aka a mistake, to match the correct pronunciation, which is only "correct" based on where you live. to make it even more complicated half of the people in my area pronounce it "correct" like you germans, while half insist on pronouncing it in the americanized way. if you still need me to overexplain it some more i can, but i'll give you some advice, just claim im desperate and trying to dig out of a mistake. maybe frenchie will come along to give your head a pat.


i've provided sources with phonetic transcriptions. i can't read them for you though.
also, unlike you i don't need other people to 'defend' me (in your ppl's case ofc not with arguments, but with some more unoriginal attacks). i'm not the one so butthurt following other people around, trying to insult them - don't mistake pointing that out from time to time as stooping to your level.


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