You realize practically no college educated women will vote for trump in 2020 right?

People have already forgotten the damage that George W. Bush did to this country. They think that because he is a nice guy, it excuses the war crimes he committed, the surveillance apparatus he helped establish, and the lies he told the American people about Iraq, as well as pushing for the war in the first place.

Since W. is a genuinely nice guy and isn't as bad as Trump, he's off the hook for a lot of folks. In that sense, the Trump presidency is the best thing that ever happened to George W. Bush.

I still have W. Bush rated as a worse president than Trump. But I think Trump has done more damage to the GOP brand due to his character flaws and style. I could see the PR damage lasting 10-20 years beyond his presidency, at least.

Yikes... & i thought you were one of the more credible posters on here... bush was horrible but not a Russian asset &/or a possibly comprised President...

Don't get me wrong, I think they are probably both bottom 5 presidents. Trump's presidency isn't complete, though, so I just don't feel completely comfortable giving him a full assessment quite yet. Also, you have to understand, I really despise George W. Bush.

I also think it's way too premature to say Trump is a Russian asset or is compromised. Let the Special Counsel play out first. The biggest issue with Trump's presidency thus far is the damage he has done to democratic institutions and norms.

But as far as actual policy, he doesn't done much. Sure, he's created a lot of self-inflicted controversy and has exacerbated partisanship, but he hasn't involved us in any awful foreign conflicts (yet). The Iraq War was probably the worst foreign policy decision in our country's history. And when you combine it with the the WMD stuff and the lack of international approval, oof.

Trump didn't even repeal the ACA. That actually might be a net-negative in my book. I was hoping for an ACA board wipe so that folks in the Rust Belt would completely turn on the GOP and we could get actual universal healthcare come 2020-2024 as a result of the inevitable reactionary movement to Trump.

>locked scammer who says he only sold stolen items in 2010 on his 2018 jsp account questioning anyone’s credibility

You aren’t the only one with these opinions. Especially rhe ACA wipe leading to MfA.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 21 2018 12:05am

Last 9 or ten posts are just amazing.

It seems to me that for lack of anything justified to blame Trump for, folks will twist and turn logic, every which way, to create something to blame Trump for.

"As far as actual policy, he hasn't done much".

Foreign policy: Pulled the US out of a slew of trade deals and other agreements, that were detrimental to the US or the world. More or less started a trade war, of which we won't see the outcome for years.

National policy: Really beat up and then redrew the nations tax laws. Has been ripping all the legs out from under ACA. FINALLY started to do something about the totally ridiculous immigration laws. Actually has been "draining the swamp".



Yet I see Trump being blamed for exacerbated partisanship, when it's the Dems who are doing that. Blamed for doing nothing, which just isn't true and is only being stalled by the Dems again. Blamed for all kinds of other things, and even sued for them, yet he still keeps coming out unscathed.

Seems to me that the keynotes of this presidency are things like a political party (Dems) that probably DID collude with Russia, and then tried every low down method of cheating to win an election, and even fucked that up. Then spent the next 2 years tjhrowing tacks down in front of Trump for having the unmitigated gall to actually win, and start making some serious improvements in this country.

More or less cracks me up when I read the more erudite poster's attempts to bend the truth to suit their unwarranted beliefs?



I kinda wish I could live another 100 years to read about how the History books will deal with this presidency. (Or maybe 200 years).

Even Microsoft is getting in on the act...



Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, says Microsoft

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-hackers/russian-hackers-targeted-u-s-conservative-think-tanks-says-microsoft-idUSKCN1L60I0





This, from the company that's latest operating system spies on it's users. Mmmmk.

/e If ANYONE is attempting to influence elections around here, I would look first to those crying and ripping their hair out when their candidate loses. It ain't rocket science.




/e

Russia denies Microsoft allegations it targeted U.S. think tanks: Ifax

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-hackers-denial/russia-denies-microsoft-allegations-it-targeted-u-s-think-tanks-ifax-idUSKCN1L60YU





For sake of argument IF Russia was trying to hack the US to influence the November election, why would they hack "right wing" think tanks, and why would they hack think tanks at all?
I mean the first thing I do on election day is check in with the opposite parties think tank before casting my vote.

I see lots of folks on here that seem to be insulted by Trump and his policy. That's weird enough. But when I see the same people believing the total crap that's being put out as valid information in the US, it kinda makes me wonder.



This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 21 2018 04:58am

you. have to be the single most deluded individual in this forum. the corruption and cronyism under trump has reached unprecedented levels - and it was already bad before your emperor won the electoral college.
do you even follow politics, or do you just judge him by his campaign slogans? pruitt, de vos, mulvaney, carson, price, kushner, UAE, zinke, shulkin, ross, ZTE, saudi arabia... the list of corruption scandals and swamp monsters is sheer endless...

Blocked, and reported.