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Nov 25 2022 10:38am
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 02:05am)
Hehe alright friend. I stop comparing USA to other developed nations...
Lets compare it to all countries if this makes you happier.

USA ranks number 129 in being the safest county :(
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world

Doesn't help much does it?

Imagine being behind saudis and Zimbabwe hahahahaha (i actually had no idea)


You used an index that defines access to firearms as the criteria to say its unsafe. (as well as other nonsense like military spending, getting criminals off the streets, weapons exports, owning nuclear weapons etc)


Invalid.

Woefully outmatched smug auth-leftists are funny.

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Nov 25 2022 12:36pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 02:05am)
Hehe alright friend. I stop comparing USA to other developed nations...
Lets compare it to all countries if this makes you happier.

USA ranks number 129 in being the safest county :(
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world

Doesn't help much does it?

Imagine being behind saudis and Zimbabwe hahahahaha (i actually had no idea)


The particular website you quoted uses visionofhumanity.org for their rankings

https://www.visionofhumanity.org/maps/#/ This is their breakdown of the US. Weapons and access to weapons are actually middle rated categories. The US gets dinged on areas including number of people in prison, terrorism, money spent on the military, weapon exports, deaths from external conflicts, nuclear/heavy weapons and overall militarism.

In other words even according to their skewed scaled the reason the US isn't as safe as Eurotrash countries is the fact that they happily live under the safety of the US military including US Nuclear Weapons, enjoy equipping their limited militaries with weapons developed by the US.
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Nov 25 2022 02:46pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 26 Nov 2022 03:38)
You used an index that defines access to firearms as the criteria to say its unsafe. (as well as other nonsense like military spending, getting criminals off the streets, weapons exports, owning nuclear weapons etc)


Invalid.

Woefully outmatched smug auth-leftists are funny.


I clicked on the literally first Google find. That's all.
Give me a ranking that you are happy with then lol

Ps: the more weapons on the streets the less safe it is. Mass shootings are proof of that

This post was edited by FantasyWorldII on Nov 25 2022 02:49pm
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Nov 25 2022 02:55pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 03:46pm)
I clicked on the literally first Google find. That's all.
Give me a ranking that you are happy with then lol

Ps: the more weapons on the streets the less safe it is. Mass shootings are proof of that


Thats the problem with mindlessly looking for something that supports your pre-decided auth-left NPC narrative instead of thinking.
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Nov 25 2022 08:19pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 26 Nov 2022 07:55)
Thats the problem with mindlessly looking for something that supports your pre-decided auth-left NPC narrative instead of thinking.


Just wanted to show you efficiently (cus my time is valuable) that US isnt really as "safe" as you think. Weapons play a huge role in this.
Having guns and rifles easily purchasable will result in more (mass)shootings cus there are just too many sick people around in every country.
A sick person with a gun is simply a risk to everyone around.

I dont think my take is insane and unreasonable but im happy to learn if better arguments are brought up.

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Nov 25 2022 09:58pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 02:46pm)
I clicked on the literally first Google find. That's all.
Give me a ranking that you are happy with then lol

Ps: the more weapons on the streets the less safe it is. Mass shootings are proof of that



Care to share how many defensive uses of firearms happen compared to firearm homicides?

You may want to rethink your less guns = more safe theory.
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Nov 25 2022 10:01pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 08:19pm)
Just wanted to show you efficiently (cus my time is valuable) that US isnt really as "safe" as you think. Weapons play a huge role in this.
Having guns and rifles easily purchasable will result in more (mass)shootings cus there are just too many sick people around in every country.
A sick person with a gun is simply a risk to everyone around.

I dont think my take is insane and unreasonable but im happy to learn if better arguments are brought up.


Over a 1.5 million defensive uses of firearms in 2021
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Nov 26 2022 03:07am
Quote (YeeHaw @ 26 Nov 2022 14:58)
Care to share how many defensive uses of firearms happen compared to firearm homicides?

You may want to rethink your less guns = more safe theory.


Evidently not. Mass shootings aren't "things that happen" in most other countries...
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Nov 26 2022 05:13am
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 26 2022 03:07am)
Evidently not. Mass shootings aren't "things that happen" in most other countries...



Completely irrelevant to the information I provided. And even if we are talking about that there was just this year a mall shooting that was stopped by some guy who was carrying.

You said less guns = less safe.

I said there are multiple times as many defensive uses of firearms than firearm homicides. This is a statistic that proves that is incorrect.
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Nov 26 2022 05:29am
Quote (YeeHaw @ 26 Nov 2022 22:13)
Completely irrelevant to the information I provided. And even if we are talking about that there was just this year a mall shooting that was stopped by some guy who was carrying.

You said less guns = less safe.

I said there are multiple times as many defensive uses of firearms than firearm homicides. This is a statistic that proves that is incorrect.


Exactly... there was a mall shooting. There had been lots of shootings. Shootings are done with guns.

More guns in a society does not equal safer society... it increases shooting risks for everyone invovled.

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