d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Official Impeachment Vote Thread
Prev1222324252651Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Dec 19 2019 01:59pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 19 2019 11:50am)


Of all the heinous offenses committed by people in government, this is the one that sticks out as particularly bad? fuck off.


Are you upset that Trump got nailed and others didn't? Or do you actually think this behavior is acceptable?
Member
Posts: 2,660
Joined: Mar 28 2010
Gold: 0.00
Dec 19 2019 02:03pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 19 2019 01:23pm)
Trump only wanted an announcement. He didn't care about an actual investigation...

But let's pretend that Trump has noble motives. Why did he not go through the State Department's Office of Inspector General to investigate anything shady going on in the State Department? Why didn't he have the DOJ work with NABU (Ukrainian agency) to see if there was any corruption?

The answer is painfully obvious. The Trump administration believes that people are so fucking stupid that they will buy into all of it. Turns out, they were right for a large portion of this country. I just feel bad for people who are true believers that Trump is some dude who is draining the swamp. He's insulting their intelligence and they don't even KNOW it.

But going back to my original point...IF the accusations had ANY merit to them, then sure, you could probably make the argument but you'd have to be REALLY careful to make sure it didn't come across as partisan. If I were in Trump's shoes, I would have cast a MUCH wider net.


You have no actual evidence of this. The testimony we got is Trump wanted him in a "Public Box". Announcing the investigations publicly is the best guarantee of them getting done.
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Dec 19 2019 02:10pm
Quote (krackprophet @ Dec 19 2019 02:03pm)
You have no actual evidence of this. The testimony we got is Trump wanted him in a "Public Box". Announcing the investigations publicly is the best guarantee of them getting done.


Best way to get an investigation done is to investigate.

Fuck what you just said is provably the dumbest thing I'll read all week
Member
Posts: 49,289
Joined: Jun 18 2006
Gold: 11.77
Dec 19 2019 02:15pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 19 2019 02:50pm)
A castrated former man calling a factual and reasonable narrative 'laughable' is not an argument.


Maybe someday I'll be manly enough to lick the boots of one of the most corrupt presidents in history.

Quote
1. Are you really going to pretend the reaction to Trump wasn't on a different level?

2. Recognizing that other people also wanted to impeach past presidents or former candidates doesn't refute my true statement.
I never pretended the only people to ever want to impeach a president were Republican.

Other people wanting to impeach past presidents doesn't refute the obvious and undeniable truth that many democrats wanted to impeach Trump regardless of the issue, and set out to do so. They openly declared it.


1. Only different in the sense that the country is more polarized and Trump is a particularly abrasive, unhinged, and unqualified president.
2. It doesn't refute it, but it sort of makes it meaningless. You could make the same claims with any president who gets impeached.

The majority of Democratic politicians opposed impeachment until the Ukraine scandal happened.


Quote
To pretend this Ukraine nonsense rises to the level of 'blatantly obvious abuse of power' is embarrassing, particularly in the context of past abuses of power.
Trump was justified asking Ukraine to look into the 2016 security issues and biden corruption.

On the other hand the Bush administration lied us into the disastrous Iraq War.
The democrat leader openly admits that and opposed impeachment.

Which is the worse offense to you?

Of all the heinous offenses committed by people in government, this is the one that sticks out as particularly bad? fuck off.


We get it... the dear leader did nothing wrong... in fact, what he did was right on the money! Nobody will ever doubt your allegiance.

Bush was motivated to go into Iraq regardless of WMD intel. It'd be hard to impeach over that since most politicians supported it. I don't think it's been established that the CIA intentionally lied about intelligence.

Quote
Irrelevant fantasy speculation based on your feelings.


It's true, and everybody here who doesn't support Trump knows it.

Quote
The reality is your establishment government worshiping is pathetic and nothing in your post demonstrated anything I said was untrue.


Uh... you're the one here defending the most powerful man in the government, along with his allies who control the senate. Sounds pretty establishment to me.
Member
Posts: 53,368
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Dec 19 2019 02:15pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 19 Dec 2019 15:10)
Best way to get an investigation done is to investigate.

Fuck what you just said is provably the dumbest thing I'll read all week


Quote (Thor123422 @ 18 Jul 2015 17:17)
Quote (card_sultan @ 18 Jul 2015 16:52)
People trying to kill the laughter lol, Trumps a big boy - he just uses that as jet fuel in his fleet of Limousines.
I say the chips fall where they may, and let the debates decide on the winners.


Yeah no. The election isn't decided at the debates. He won't even make it that far.


no that is

“provably”, sums up your ability to execute anything correctly
hopefully next decade you’ll get off state subsidy and stop being reliant on mommie-in-law for groceries
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Dec 19 2019 02:17pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 19 2019 12:15pm)
no that is

“provably”, sums up your ability to execute anything correctly
hopefully next decade you’ll get off state subsidy and stop being reliant on mommie-in-law for groceries


Weak, you can do better.
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Dec 19 2019 02:22pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 19 2019 02:17pm)
Weak, you can do better.


No he cant. He's been saying the same thing word for word for about 3 years now.

At first I thought he was playing a character but he's convinced me he really is as dumb as he looks.
Member
Posts: 2,660
Joined: Mar 28 2010
Gold: 0.00
Dec 19 2019 02:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 19 2019 02:10pm)
Best way to get an investigation done is to investigate.

Fuck what you just said is provably the dumbest thing I'll read all week


I can promise you i will do something in private if you give me x now. I can also go back on my word once I get x.
Member
Posts: 53,368
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Dec 19 2019 02:23pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 19 Dec 2019 15:22)
No he cant. He's been saying the same thing word for word for about 3 years now.

At first I thought he was playing a character but he's convinced me he really is as dumb as he looks.

that’s due to you remaining in the same situation

do NOT pm me again with another sad little story about your personal life, looking for my approval. it’s unbecoming
Member
Posts: 48,673
Joined: Jul 5 2008
Gold: 0.00
Dec 19 2019 02:43pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 19 2019 12:59pm)
Are you upset that Trump got nailed and others didn't? Or do you actually think this behavior is acceptable?


Trump hasn't been impeached and he's not going to be. It's just a sick fantasy that a bunch of bias butthurt people in control of the house believe.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1222324252651Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll