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May 24 2017 06:10pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html?adkey=bn

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First on CNN: AG Sessions did not disclose Russia meetings in security clearance form, DOJ says


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his staff were then told by an FBI employee who assisted in filling out the form, known as the SF-86, that he didn't need to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator.


actual meeting in question:

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sessions attends a Heritage Foundation event while senator, a group of ambassadors including Kislyak say hello to him afterwards and invite him to events they were sponsoring


same fucking story thats now being retrodden with only minor detail changes to attempt to spin it as something new, this one from march:

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Sessions did not disclose meetings with Russian ambassador
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-ambassador-meetings/
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May 24 2017 06:16pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 24 2017 07:10pm)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html?adkey=bn

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actual meeting in question:



same fucking story thats now being retrodden with only minor detail changes to attempt to spin it as something new, this one from march:


I'll have to agree with you on this one.
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May 24 2017 06:20pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 24 2017 06:16pm)
I'll have to agree with you on this one.


I've noticed a trend of self-deconstructing headline articles that I believe are explicitly aimed at twitter, facebook & reddit to manipulate people scrolling through them.
They cover their own deniability by actually including the reason the headline is deceptive in the article, thus being technically correct, but word the headlines for maximum sensationalism and spin.
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May 24 2017 06:21pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 24 2017 07:20pm)
I've noticed a trend of self-deconstructing headline articles that I believe are explicitly aimed at twitter, facebook & reddit to manipulate people scrolling through them.
They cover their own deniability by actually including the reason the headline is deceptive in the article, thus being technically correct, but word the headlines for maximum sensationalism and spin.


I'd tell you that if you don't want sensationalism read WaPo/NYT, but something tells me you'd disagree.
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May 24 2017 06:36pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 24 2017 05:21pm)
I'd tell you that if you don't want sensationalism read WaPo/NYT, but something tells me you'd disagree.


They are the forefront of perpetuating tabloid style heavily editorialized headlines.
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May 24 2017 06:38pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 24 2017 06:21pm)
I'd tell you that if you don't want sensationalism read WaPo/NYT, but something tells me you'd disagree.


Didn't I just make a thread about the NYT?
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May 24 2017 07:02pm
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Didn't I just make a thread about the NYT?


Most of your threads suck, the NYT and WaPo are putting out the best journalism. They are doing their job.
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May 24 2017 07:06pm
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Most of your threads suck, the NYT and WaPo are putting out the best journalism. They are doing their job.


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May 24 2017 07:11pm
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Most of your threads suck, the NYT and WaPo are putting out the best journalism. They are doing their job.


So two things had to occur for the NYT to make their Manchester bombing story
1) Someone in the US intelligence community had to leak all those crime scene details after being given them by the UK
2) The NYT had to decide it was appropriate to publish these details on the national news
As far as journalistic integrity goes, well at least they aren't Nightcrawler yet.
You don't see anything wrong with the NYT routinely publishing leaked intelligence that is actively harming world security, without any objective but getting a bigger scoop?
Its not some grand crusade of transparency or whistleblowing. And the Intel services made specific requests they don't do this just a day earlier

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 24 2017 07:12pm
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May 25 2017 10:43am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 24 2017 06:11pm)
So two things had to occur for the NYT to make their Manchester bombing story
1) Someone in the US intelligence community had to leak all those crime scene details after being given them by the UK
2) The NYT had to decide it was appropriate to publish these details on the national news
As far as journalistic integrity goes, well at least they aren't Nightcrawler yet.
You don't see anything wrong with the NYT routinely publishing leaked intelligence that is actively harming world security, without any objective but getting a bigger scoop?
Its not some grand crusade of transparency or whistleblowing. And the Intel services made specific requests they don't do this just a day earlier


They know they can just blame Trump and their readers will eat it up, despite the fact that NYT is leaking and then blaming the administration for leaking.

It's fucking ridiculous and sick. I want real stories. I want something substantive that can actually bring down the Trump administration. But this tabloid style invention of the news is complete and utter bullshit. It's turning liberals away and giving conservatives more ammo.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 25 2017 10:44am
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