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Nov 28 2016 02:34pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 27 2016 07:07pm)
Welp, whomever wrote this doesn't even have an introductory level physics education, since buoyancy is covered in first semester physics and can be easily derived.




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I don't know much about it as well, just that Coriolis is used to predict the movement of pressure fronts, indicating air velocity and direction.
Cherry picking Coriolis out of the equation will destroy any mathematical weather model we have.


this guy a explains in quite well, and if the Coriolis effect was real - Planes would need to constant adjust there altitude and direction, but of course they dont.



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this guy a explains in quite well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qru1oKJDDEA


LOL.

I'll actually look at part of it. But this guy sounds like he has only finished elementary school.

/e Nevermind this dude is John Snow. How can you post this, while actually making decent arguments on other fronts :/

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North Carolina might actually have a complaint.

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/In-The-States/Know-Your-Rights-State-Laws-on-Employee-Time-Off-to-Vote

According to the AFL-CIO, North Carolina doesn't grant workers any time off to vote. Neither does Florida, but apparently most local areas do have rules (Wisconsin gives 3 hours). But we're here about North Carolina, seeing as the OP's article didn't mention poll hours as a problem for Florida, so let's get down to brass tacks.

North Carolina limiting polling hours could obviously be seen as voter suppression. Unless there is a disastrously low number of volunteers or poll workers for this cycle, which is a Google mission that might take longer than 30 seconds, there's no good reason to limit the number of hours polls are open unless you're trying to limit the number of people who might have access to those polls. And naturally, limited hours hurts those who work jobs that may not be 9-5. Like low income workers. Who tend to be black. Students have no fucking excuse, so don't play that card to me.

So we might have one legitimate example of election fixing out of three examples presented. Here's my question: where's the excuse for Pennsylvania, which went blue in consecutive elections as far back as I was willing to check (not far tbh)? How about Ohio, which went blue for both of Obama's wins? Or the good ol' mitten, Michigan, where I gave plenty of shit to my non-political friends over their election of a meme as president? The bottom line is this: excuses can be made for either party in a swing state. The trend that was presented by the election of Trump is clear, despite whatever excuses liberal media wants to throw at us: the nation rejected Hillary. Why? I dunno. Being scummy, being a woman, being a liberal, hating black people...I can't tell you. Pick your poison. What I can tell you is that the widespread trend this electoral cycle cannot be easily explained away by "voter suppression" or by claims of cheating. The nation made a statement, and that statement was that they preferred Trump over Hillary.


As far as I remember when the NC polling changes were in the works it was the same exact amount of hours, just different days than the original, more days, less hours per day, or something like that. The changes were announced 3 years ahead of time, people had plenty of time and notice to adjust and some may have failed to do so.

Most of the hours and days (again from what I recall) that were changed had to do with closing down on those hours/days that got the least amount of voter turnout and adjusting to be open more when traffic is heavier. Which is the opposite intended action of supression.

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LOL.

I'll actually look at part of it. But this guy sounds like he has only finished elementary school.

/e Nevermind this dude is John Snow. How can you post this, while actually making decent arguments on other fronts :/


not sure why you dont like him but whatever, perhaps you'll like this Phd dude better:

"People have this idea that childhood young people have to be placed into a framework in which they will follow orders, accept existing frameworks that so they don't challenge and so on. And this is often quite explicit.....claiming there are certain institution responsible for the indoctrination of the young – and they are not doing there job properly (schools, Universities, Churches..) and we need to change them so they carry out their job of indoctrination and control more effectively. ….and this goes on all the way up to Graduate school and research" Noam Chomsky

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Nov 29 2016 03:03pm
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As far as I remember when the NC polling changes were in the works it was the same exact amount of hours, just different days than the original, more days, less hours per day, or something like that. The changes were announced 3 years ahead of time, people had plenty of time and notice to adjust and some may have failed to do so.

Most of the hours and days (again from what I recall) that were changed had to do with closing down on those hours/days that got the least amount of voter turnout and adjusting to be open more when traffic is heavier. Which is the opposite intended action of supression.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/29/fourth_circuit_strikes_down_north_carolina_voting_restrictions.html

This is not even remotely true. They deliberately sought out counties and precincts that were predominantly African-American and targeted those areas, and every other possible change that is known to disproportionately impact nonwhites (and thus, likelier Democratic voters) was pursued too (for example, eliminating out-of-precinct voting and taking away Sunday voting in heavily-black counties for no other reason than because black people overwhelmingly make use of Sunday voting). The legislature specifically requested voter data cross-tabs and then made their restrictions with the goal of hurting people who were less likely to vote for them. If there were additions, they were mainly granted to counties and communities that were more likely to vote for the Republicans who had already gerrymandered themselves into power.

The only part of what you wrote that's accurate is that the suppression effort got underway a long time ago (literally immediately after SCOTUS gutted the VRA), but that's just a product of how the GOP immediately seeks to suppress voter turnout whenever a new opportunity is presented. That's the same everywhere.
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Nov 29 2016 03:06pm
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/29/fourth_circuit_strikes_down_north_carolina_voting_restrictions.html

This is not even remotely true. They deliberately sought out counties and precincts that were predominantly African-American and targeted those areas, and every other possible change that is known to disproportionately impact nonwhites (and thus, likelier Democratic voters) was pursued too (for example, eliminating out-of-precinct voting and taking away Sunday voting in heavily-black counties for no other reason than because black people overwhelmingly make use of Sunday voting). The legislature specifically requested voter data cross-tabs and then made their restrictions with the goal of hurting people who were less likely to vote for them. If there were additions, they were mainly granted to counties and communities that were more likely to vote for the Republicans who had already gerrymandered themselves into power.

The only part of what you wrote that's accurate is that the suppression effort got underway a long time ago (literally immediately after SCOTUS gutted the VRA), but that's just a product of how the GOP immediately seeks to suppress voter turnout whenever a new opportunity is presented. That's the same everywhere.


slate. hahaha they give great advice on how to be wrong. anything to add from motherjones or huffpost?

obligatory: thanks for the fucking laugh!
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Nov 29 2016 03:37pm
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slate. hahaha they give great advice on how to be wrong. anything to add from motherjones or huffpost?

obligatory: thanks for the fucking laugh!


I understand given your obvious deficiencies in the subject matter that you need to go straight to ad hominem in attacking Slate (though what they've ever done, I'm not sure), but feel free to consult the pertinent ruling for yourself: http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/7-29-16%204th%20Circuit%20NAACP%20v%20NC.pdf
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Nov 29 2016 04:00pm
Quote (Pollster @ 29 Nov 2016 17:37)
I understand given your obvious deficiencies in the subject matter that you need to go straight to ad hominem in attacking Slate (though what they've ever done, I'm not sure), but feel free to consult the pertinent ruling for yourself: http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/7-29-16%204th%20Circuit%20NAACP%20v%20NC.pdf

they produce and spread garbage. a lot like you have the last 18 months ~3 years here. if it isnt voter suppression its gerrymandering or racism or xenophobia or whatever boogeyman reason your party got slapped all over the place in the 2014 and 2016 elections.

obligatory: thanks for the fucking laugh!
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Nov 29 2016 04:12pm
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they produce and spread garbage. a lot like you have the last 18 months ~3 years here. if it isnt voter suppression its gerrymandering or racism or xenophobia or whatever boogeyman reason your party got slapped all over the place in the 2014 and 2016 elections.

obligatory: thanks for the fucking laugh!


That sounds an awful lot like you simply having a dislike for actual facts being introduced into your little bubble.

Feel free to consult the ruling from whichever non-Slate source you like. It's not like the facts are Slate-specific content.
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