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Jul 19 2016 10:01am

Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 19 2016 10:55am)

Nope, I guess there isn't a strawman.jpg for that one.

CNN has a pretty good political panel. I have been impressed by them at times during this presidential cycle. Their news is awful, but some of their panels are good. But if I'm going to watch any cable news, I tend to prefer Fox. I love watching Bill O'Reilly and Bret Baier. I think it's important to understand the opposite side, and I also have found myself agreeing with them about some stuff that surprises me. It's intriguing to watch.

I'll agree about ESPN shoving their agenda down people's throats. It is annoying. But I will also say people are taking notice of all the shenanigans at ESPN. They have lost millions of subscribers recently. They still are doing well on the virtue of their TV deals with the various sports leagues, and there are a lot of reasons why ESPN has lost so many subscribers recently, but I think shoving their political agenda down people's throats is at least part of it.

And see, that's my point. You perceive it to be a Liberal bias because more Liberals consume the media that you are probably thinking about. I guess I could say that Talk show radio and Rush Limbaugh has a Conservative bias, right? But that's just silly, their audiences are more Conservative. It's less of a bias and more of reaching a target audience. People's minds like to be coddled and they have trouble exposing themselves to different opinions.

If you're going to say our media is overall terrible and irresponsible and needs to do a better job, then I'd agree with you. But you seem to be frustrated that most of the media you are familiar with tends to lean Liberal. I'm just pointing out to you that media is also a business and also has to respond to the demand from its consumers.

Who consumes the media is irrelevant to the question of whether or not the traditional media has a liberal bias. Talk radio and Rush Limbaugh have a strong conservative bias obviously. The motivation behind the bias is also irrelevant.

I'm frustrated that entertainment and sports media is turning more political(and of course the politics lean liberal).

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 19 2016 10:57am)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrX3Ql31URA

Lol just getting started.

This election is hanging fruit for the Democrats. The only question is how many Senate and House seats is Trump going to lose?

The latest conspiracy theories is that Trump is working for the Clintons, since the Clintons are many times more wealthy and powerful and Trump loves to be the class clown, and that Trump is going to get the Democrats another Supermajority that won't be squanders like last time when the Democrats kept trying over and over to get the GOP to come to work and help craft some laws.

Saw that yesterday... very effective.

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Jul 19 2016 10:08am

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 19 2016 07:57am)

perfect ad

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Jul 19 2016 10:11am

Quote (Skinned @ 19 Jul 2016 10:57)

It's a fun idea to play around with.

But it's far more likely that the more straight-forward argument with less assumptions is the correct one: The GOP is a dysfunctional and incompetent party right now.

I'd like to say there is some grand or elaborate plan/excuse for why Donald Trump is their nominee right now, but I think this is just a party that has a lot of issues and growing pains right now.

Let's hope they get better. Donald Trump and this GOP isn't good for America.

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I'm just pointing out to you that people will watch or listen to this stuff less if they don't like it. The media is a business. Various media sites and companies pander to their consumer bases because they have to in order to survive, thrive, or grow.

So who consumes which media and how much of it is definitely relevant to its perceived bias. Do you think as many Liberals would be subscribed to the NYT if they started running a bunch of Conservative-slanted stories each copy?

There's also no doubt that most people who want to grow up to be journalists are liberal. And that's because writing as a whole is more or less an artistic field, and artists and the people who go into those types of fields tend to lean left. That's just how their brains work. Liberals love that flowery art shit.

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Jul 19 2016 10:21am

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 19 2016 03:57pm)

Yes kids crime does pay. Go commit some so the system may subjugate you. What a fantastical role model Hilary is!
We should allow children to vote in our elections. It makes sense to target them with political ads. Somehow only they can understand what a great leader hillary will be with thier well developed minds and intellects.

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Jul 19 2016 10:38am

Skinned's brain :bonk:

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Jul 19 2016 10:39am

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Yes, that ad targets children and is trying to convince them to vote for Hillary, you are good at understanding the world.

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Jul 19 2016 10:51am

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 19 2016 04:39pm)

Yes, that ad targets children and is trying to convince them to vote for Hillary, you are good at understanding the world.

i.e. Yes.
A vote thereby to thier parents whom carry out thier children's will at the ballot box. It happens more often than you might think. Especially with a drugged docile population incapable of critical thought process. A condition which is becoming far more common place.

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Jul 19 2016 10:53am

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i.e. Yes.
A vote thereby to thier parents whom carry out thier children's will at the ballot box. It happens more often then you might think. Especially with a drugged docile population incapable of critical thought process. A condition which is becoming far more common place.

It's aimed at parents in the first place. Telling children 'thus guy is going to say inappropriate stuff' would not be a good way to convince children to dislike a dude.

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Jul 19 2016 10:59am

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 19 2016 04:53pm)

It's aimed at parents in the first place. Telling children 'thus guy is going to say inappropriate stuff' would not be a good way to convince children to dislike a dude. :(

Inappropriate from the standpoint of a child.
I guess we're not supposed to talk about those things in politics i.e. "think of the children" no talking about killing and death or any of that scary stuff happening all arounds us.
"Our politicians should keep silent about those issues it gives kids nightmares!" Pathetic.

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Inappropriate from the standpoint of a child.
I guess we're not supposed to talk about those things in politics i.e. "think of the children" no talking about killing and death or any of that scary stuff happening all arounds us.
Our politicians should keep silent about those issues it gives kids nightmares! Pathetic.

You are so bad at perceiving what's actually in front of you that it baffles me.

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