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Dec 21 2023 07:54am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Dec 20 2023 08:55pm)
So would I. A lot changes in 16 years.



I was using it as an example of a "real world experience" because up until that point in my life I thought I'd been treated fairly. Then when I saw how minorities/blacks got college for free even with terrible academic records that was one of the first times in my life where I was like, "That doesn't make sense".

Dude I don't care if you know people at Phizer? wtf? I said will you become a volunteer in the next Covid vaccine trial and be injected as a test subject. You never responded? I said it was a simple yes or no? Here we are months later...


i can see why you didn't get into a mid tier school like u illinois.
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Dec 21 2023 10:09am
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The exact thing you’re complaining about is the reason caucasians make up the predominant race in medical schools.

Asian Americans have consistently higher gpa and mcat scores and it’s been the case for a couple decades. The reality is Asians compete with Asians for medical school spots which is a harder, whites vs whites and xyz race vs xyz race. On a numbers basis, every accepted medical student would be Asian if it wasn’t for racial bias.

I’m not mad at all, it is what it is.


I see exactly what you are saying and I agree with you I was more so trying to hone in on the fact that it's no longer about the "highest academic standard". I would have no problem if an entire med school group was all asian or all white or all hindi if their test scores were reflective of that. As you know even getting into med school requires you to basically have a perfect GPA throughout undergrad and then maintain a score usually above %75 all the way through med-school. This is the case for my cousin whose in his first year of med school. If he gets even a low "C" on anything he can be "kicked out" and would have to re-apply to get back into the same med school program. That's the way it should be. It shouldn't be "easy" to become a doctor. "C's" get degrees at most universities but "C's" shouldn't keep you in med school so I can understand why they "weed out" some folks who barely got into med school in the first place.
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Dec 21 2023 10:28am
Quote (Sioux @ 21 Dec 2023 07:54)
i can see why you didn't get into a mid tier school like u illinois.


If you think that offends me it doesn't. I applied to 6 different schools when I was a junior in high school. 3 of those schools were out-of-state and I sent my transcript just for shits and giggles because that's how many schools my high school would send to. Namely UCLA, University of Wisconsin, and Purdue. I didn't think I could get in those but why not try? The other 3 were Eastern Illinois University, Illinois State University, and University of Illinois. I knew I'd get in those first two and I did(that's where most people from my high school went). The main reason I was told I didn't get accepted into U of I wasn't because of my test score it was because of the fact I "worked" and didn't do any extracurriculars in high school. No sports. No chess club. No science club and apparently U of I wanted "that". So it wasn't a surprise. The average ACT test score for acceptance into U of I was a 28. I got a 31. That's why I was pretty shocked. Had I been in "band" I maybe would've gotten in who knows.

I can see why your one of the most pretentious atheist though. Because you think a "diploma" is a measure of success. You think your so smart that even "God" isn't good enough for that big brain of yours. I have family members who are atheist and educated and let me tell you they are a lot like you. Unhappy. Riding on a high horse. Making sly comments as if everyone is beneath them. It's exactly what you do on this forum. You pretend you have no weaknesses but your greatest weakness is your hubris and your inability to be humble even in conversation.

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Dec 21 2023 10:34am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Dec 21 2023 10:09am)
I see exactly what you are saying and I agree with you I was more so trying to hone in on the fact that it's no longer about the "highest academic standard". I would have no problem if an entire med school group was all asian or all white or all hindi if their test scores were reflective of that. As you know even getting into med school requires you to basically have a perfect GPA throughout undergrad and then maintain a score usually above %75 all the way through med-school. This is the case for my cousin whose in his first year of med school. If he gets even a low "C" on anything he can be "kicked out" and would have to re-apply to get back into the same med school program. That's the way it should be. It shouldn't be "easy" to become a doctor. "C's" get degrees at most universities but "C's" shouldn't keep you in med school so I can understand why they "weed out" some folks who barely got into med school in the first place.


I don’t mind, it is what it is like i said. A significant portion of the country is inherently biased against all ethnicities so ensuring the demographics incorporate ample causasians is essential to healthcare trust overall.

Also, a large body of evidence to support mcat scores do not correlate with physician competency. As long as there is a high minimum standard, which there is.

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Dec 21 2023 10:37am
Quote (gnarjay @ 21 Dec 2023 01:40)
he took a risk and he's getting the reward, thats perfectly fine. your anecdote is on the extreme end of the spectrum though and attending the most prestigious school in the USA comes with an inherent cost. regarding the dude I originally responded to, millionaires complaining about how much Ivy League tuition costs wont get any sympathy from me


Dude it doesn't change the FACT that universities have gotten more expensive year after year and the so called "democrat party" that you support hasn't come through on that "Free College for everyone" promise they've made going back decades. Republicans simply say "Nothing is free" so if you give everyone "free college" that tax money has to "come from somewhere". Common sense. Free college and Free healthcare sound great hypothetically but they hit a wall called reality. "Loan forbearance or forgiveness" is a slap in the face to people who actually paid off their college debt in my opinion.

I wasn't complaining about me not getting free college so I'm sorry if you took that out of context. I'm saying it's pathetic that me and my sister may have to start paying for my godsons college tuition and he's 10 years old. Locking in a tuition now may be the difference between a 100k bachelors degree and a 150k bachelors degree. College should never be free but it should be affordable for EVERYONE. That's my point.

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Dec 21 2023 10:40am
i applied to yale, i wasnt accepted. then i applied to stevens point, on a paper science major intention (high demand, low supply, school paid for by paper industry fully) and was wait listed. so when university of wisconsin oshkosh accepted me i decided to go there, on my dime. stevens point accepted me but i was butthurt, never even considered going back. one of my more boneheaded moves, as i paid for my own school as a result.
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Dec 21 2023 10:42am
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i applied to yale, i wasnt accepted. then i applied to stevens point, on a paper science major intention (high demand, low supply, school paid for by paper industry fully) and was wait listed. so when university of wisconsin oshkosh accepted me i decided to go there, on my dime. stevens point accepted me but i was butthurt, never even considered going back. one of my more boneheaded moves, as i paid for my own school as a result.


You met wifey at oshkosh tho right

Maybe alternate reality wouldn’t have been so kind. Something about those Wisconsin girls

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Dec 21 2023 10:43am
Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Dec 2023 10:40)
i applied to yale, i wasnt accepted. then i applied to stevens point, on a paper science major intention (high demand, low supply, school paid for by paper industry fully) and was wait listed. so when university of wisconsin oshkosh accepted me i decided to go there, on my dime. stevens point accepted me but i was butthurt, never even considered going back. one of my more boneheaded moves, as i paid for my own school as a result.


Would you say that the high school you attended probably brought up "little" about the real "cost" of college because the public school where I went never talked about the "massive loans" you'd have to take out if you got in to a major university. They always made it seem like because of your high GPA you'd get "money back on tuition" or that "scholarships" were easy to get if you just applied.

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Dec 21 2023 10:45am
Quote (Bazi @ 21 Dec 2023 10:42)
You met wifey at oshkosh tho right

Maybe alternate reality wouldn’t have been so kind. Something about those Wisconsin girls


Lmao went to the Penn State vs Wisconsin college football game earlier this year. Wisconsin girls hit different :rofl:
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Would you say that the high school you attended probably brought up "little" about the real "cost" of college because the public school where I went never talked about the "massive loans" you'd have to take out if you got in to a major university.


I think this is true of all high schools in our generation tbh. Borrow and pay later was the theme of the prior generation and we were actively living through education price gouging

I remember one semester I bought books off eBay and got in trouble that I didn’t get them through the school library at literally 5x the cost

Financial literacy is, I think, more taught in todays highschool environment but I honestly have no idea

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