Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 7 2023 11:45pm)
I would say he is more on the neutral side. Anyways, you serve in IDF?
Our military was build by the IDF.
yes. more than a decade ago.
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 8 2023 07:57pm)
What does a long term solution look like? There cannot be a two state solution after this, obviously. Gazans can't be expelled, where would they go? Cant fit 2 million in the Sinai. I think the DMZ is the logical outcome. Maybe the transfer of utility responsibilities to egypt and palestinians. That can work for Gaza, not the west bank
realistically a long term solution is dealing with Iran. short to medium term solutions are power strikes. the more devastation and the more the targets are strategic to Hamas\Jihad the longer it will be quiet till the next cycle\conflict ahead.
Egypt best decision in the past ( and they insist to this day ) is not to take Gaza or even deal with Gaza. on other words - it's an Israeli problem. their smartest move ever.
a transfer to some rich "modern" country with options for the Palestinians on the long term is possible, only if Saudi Arabia for example will by some miracle would take them. one of the main reasons Hamas acted with the brutal invasion in this timing
is the Israel-Saudi Arabia potential agreements. in theory if this will take place in the future and those agreements will be valid and expanded, Israel can ask for Saudi Arabia to reflect on transfering Palestinians over there.
second problem: Hamas ( and i get it ) will not allow it. he will kill his own people before allowing a mass transfer.
third problem: in theory - it is possible that no one will ever want to take the Palestinians since they see only trouble coming from taking them.
Quote (fender @ Oct 8 2023 12:12am)
holy.. you are using reporters "opinion pieces" (such as your second link) from haaretz and talking to me about Amira Hass who is one of the most leftist reporters on the planet ?
my definition is simple, look it in a regular, simply dictionary. not by some reporters who will always write Israel down as the devil himself as their own personal agenda.
This post was edited by darksoho on Oct 8 2023 12:55pm