He shoulddddd win PA, but there are 2 issues.

1. There are still a good bit of election day votes to count, which could tilt Trump in cities like Erie and that one outside Pittsburgh. This could shrink the roar of votes Biden will get from the Southeast PA mail-in votes.

2. The supreme court has already taken an active interest in allowing the "party" with Trump to be involved in the lawsuit of the law that was passed just before the election about being able to count postmarked Nov 3 mail-in votes.

As for #2, I can't see this being a problem for democrats. To throw out those votes would disenfranchise voters that would've otherwise voted in-person or dropped it in a box earlier has they not passed a LAW that said waiting til Nov 3 was fine. That's a pretty open and shut case unless the Supreme Court goes purely on party lines, which Thomas and Alito will do, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and ACB who knows, Roberts won't go for it and obviously the dems wont either.

It's interesting that for Trump's campaign and presidency, he has always managed to power through problems with his bullshit. The endless stumbles, the corruption, impeachment. He's stayed alive by bullshitting, and enough of the American people bought it. He was able to change reality for his supporters with his bullshit.

Then he confronted COVID, and bullshitting stopped working. It didn't prevent the spread and the deaths. And we have 234,000 Americans dead.

Now he's trying to bullshit his way into winning an election he's losing. But he can't. It doesn't matter whether his enablers parrot his message, it doesn't matter if his supporters gather outside of polling places and think the election was stolen. The legitimate votes are going to be counted and if he loses, there's nothing he can do to stop that.

Different motivations, context matters. After all the counts were supposedly stopped in the AM on the 4th, several hundred thousand votes simply "appeared" in battleground states, 100% for biden. Trump voters in those states want some oversight before votes are counted so it can be guaranteed there's no fraud. Like, why would ballot counters be blocking out windows? What need do they have for secrecy?

In Arizona, on the other hand, areas that likely are a high percentage conservative stopped their counting prematurely and without cause, and basically told the voters, "Sorry, you gotta wait, because we said so."

Both cases make perfect sense, though the Arizona thing makes more sense, honestly.

lets count number of years donalds trump was president, One, Two, Three, Four. Four years! Four years as president, HAHA.



source lol. the 100% for biden thing is a joke lol. people just keep saying it, and have one buzzfeed typo graphic as evidence and nothing more.

give me the documents.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 5 2020 09:06am

this is becoming a circus

just release all the votes already and end this. Those mail-in ballots are plain stupid. Make these people vote in person next time

several states vote only by mail.

claiming its a problem in 2020 when its been a state wide thing for years in several areas is trump propaganda.

We should be able to vote from machines on every corner like ATM's.

Put your ID in and vote.



This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 5 2020 09:10am

I don't care about Trump, but this suspense is creating immense tension across the nation. The mail-in ballots should be guaranteed to arrive on the day of the election and end the count on the same day.

Or states could count ballots before election day like Florida does.

I can tell you I saw WI flip after the vote was closed in the AP tracking shown on google. At the close of counting, it was still pink. Same with Michigan. I can tell you Biden votes went up, Trump votes did not. Honestly at the time I didn't think too much of it. Figured it was probably just late submissions or reporting.

If you want to track it down, feel free. Personally, I'm more interested in things there's video evidence of, such as vote counters blocking out windows so that poll watchers cannot verify lack of fraud. The system is supposed to be transparent, is it not?

I'm not here to chase things down. If there's any wrongdoing, it'll come out in the courts. But I'd be equally as hesitant based on evidence seen to simply write off wrongdoing.

"Wait for the facts, or prove your ignorance."

At any rate, I was simply explaining the context behind the "protests", not signaling agreement.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 09:13am