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Mar 26 2020 03:35pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 26 Mar 2020 22:26)
So the millions of tests the Spanish government bought from China last week aren't working (they only work 30% of the time), and the Chinese government had warned us that they were buying them from an unlicensed company.

ffs, this government...



Yes, of course Korea and Taiwan are the once handling best... this is why I've said several times here that I consider the Korean approach the best. Herd immunity would rank second, and shutdown third. And of course doing nothing, only to go for confinement once there are widespread cases, I would rate as the worst possible approach.


It still has to be mentioned that Taiwan and Japan are islands, and South Korea and Singapore are de facto islands. Getting an epidemic under control with tracing and testing, but without a shutdown, is a lot more easy when there are only a few ports of entry to the country.
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You DO know that the Senate passed the stimulus bill today, right?
Now it's up to the House.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 26 2020 02:50pm)
Well, one thing to keep in mind is that the U.S. have more than 5 times the population of Italy, and more than 7 times that of Spain.

In general, the infection numbers seem to be more strongly influenced by the amount of testing than by the actual level of infection spread.


On the other hand, Atlanta ICUs at all 4 major local hospitals are full before even taking in any COVID19 patients.
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Mar 26 2020 03:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 Mar 2020 22:35)
It still has to be mentioned that Taiwan and Japan are islands, and South Korea and Singapore are de facto islands. Getting an epidemic under control with tracing and testing, but without a shutdown, is a lot more easy when there are only a few ports of entry to the country.


Very true. Although it's also true that Europe (even more so America) is much further away from where it all started, and had more time to prepare.
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Mar 26 2020 03:46pm
Local teacher in my city who contracted covid-19 has passed away today. RIP. We’re up to 9 cases locally.
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Mar 26 2020 03:48pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Mar 26 2020 04:26pm)
So the millions of tests the Spanish government bought from China last week aren't working (they only work 30% of the time), and the Chinese government had warned us that they were buying them from an unlicensed company.

ffs, this government...



Yes, of course Korea and Taiwan are the once handling best... this is why I've said several times here that I consider the Korean approach the best. Herd immunity would rank second, and shutdown third. And of course doing nothing, only to go for confinement once there are widespread cases, I would rate as the worst possible approach.


The problem with the "go for herd immunity" approach is, the more hosts the virus infects, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate, which screws up the herd immunity you were going for in the first place.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ 26 Mar 2020 22:48)
The problem with the "go for herd immunity" approach is, the more hosts the virus infects, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate, which screws up the herd immunity you were going for in the first place.


Yes, that is a possibility, and the main drawback imo.
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Quote (Ghot @ Mar 26 2020 05:37pm)
You DO know that the Senate passed the stimulus bill today, right?
Now it's up to the House.


He doesn't care. just parroting dishonest leftist anti-republican talking points.

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The concern from Scott, as well as Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Ben Sasse, R-Neb., and Rick Scott, R-Fla., was that the bill could pay workers more in unemployment benefits than they'd make in salary: a $600 per week payment on top of ordinary benefits that are calculated as a percentage of income.

“Think about this, if you graduate from the University of South Carolina or if you’re a beat reporter graduating from the University of Kansas, you make 30,000 a year working. Under this legislation, we would pay you 50,000 a year to not work. So, if you’re on unemployment for 16 weeks, we would give a 50 percent raise under that scenario.”


Scott said that senators objecting to the coronavirus relief bill want to make sure that Americans are “whole" as they remain unemployed, not getting a raise.


pic 2: Numerous fact checkers w/ various political affiliations debunked the claim that Trump called the virus a hoax.

example from march 2nd: https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/02/fact-check-did-trump-call-coronavirus-a-hoax/
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Reminder of what was posted 6-7 weeks ago - in this topic - by some american troll



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 26 2020 04:06pm
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Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 26 2020 04:22pm)
As I've posted before, we're in lockdown for all intents and purposes but it being called a 'lockdown'.

https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2020/03/23/stricter-measures-to-control-coronavirus


Yea, the only missing part of the lockdown was actually communicating to the general public that it was a lockdown. Since the people don't know it is a lockdown, many are not locking down. The ones that are locking down are the ones that realized that it was the right thing to do thanks to getting their information from sources other than politicians.

The politicians failing to communicate to people that their "guidelines" are a lockdown is the only thing that's stopping it from being a lockdown.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Mar 26 2020 04:47pm
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