To be fair countries like Germany deserve a shoutout, they also burdened a lot of this, on a per capita basis probably even more than us. To a lesser extent the French, English, Canadians, Dutch, etc.

This conversation is tough because elements of society could look at it and say well you're heartless, selfish, hate poor people and so on which to me is such a dishonest way to frame it. Personally I actually moved left on this issue in the last number of years and have empathy for these masses, regardless if they are Palestinian, African, Central American, whatever. You have an honest conversation with them and are like yeah I'd probably do the same thing if my family was in the predicament yours was. Problem is, the southern border is basically a fire hose and it can't be that. We should take in people, the burden should be shared (including by the loving ME Muslims) but we need some sort of control and some sort of plan outside 'well we'll figure it out in 10 years' when the countries social services are on the brink of collapse.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Oct 17 2023 12:21pm

How do you know it’s a launch from Hamas?

Oh I know the burden Europeans countries have taken on. I've been to Germany, France, Italy, Sweden and I'll never forget being in Munich, Germany and the "Call to prayer" came on and I was taking some pictures of architecture like most tourist do and I was heckled by Muslims who thought I was "video-taping" them. Was really fucked up.

The part that's bad about the United States taking in Muslim refugees in particular is that we've been at War with various areas of the Middle East for almost 50 years now and rightfully so a lot of their people "hate us" for what our military has doneto their homelands.

It's even more sad for friends I have who served in Iraq/Afghanistan who are struggling with PTSD and the effects of war. To see our government house and financially support "immigrants/refugees" and not veterans is a BIG problem. Pathetic if you ask me..

because those idiots are posting videos and that's not a fucking airstrike. we are bombing Gaza on a daily basis, yes sir. some high ranking Hamas personals are vaporized, strategic buildings and i belive as the days progress
with my own past experience there is a plan behind everything we bomb.

there is no possibility to air-strike 300 civilians.
the "air-strike" that is posted and already on the net on various places is not an air-strike. period. every fucking professional no matter it's nationality will say the same thing = this is a missile, not an air strike.
10 mins before the incident took place, those idiots fired a barrage to the center of Israel. a LOT in % compared to previous nights.
among those 10 mins, they posted they fired a longer range variation of a missile to a more Northern area in Israel ( landed somewhere in the sea ).

so, having said all that - withing those 10 to 15 mins the incident took place ( a self failed missile ).

this inhuman terror group will bomb, kill, stop from going south, etc.. it's own people in Gaza just to break free of what they got themselves into.

So Israel is defending itself by blowing up hospitals.

If it is the case then Netanyahu has gone full circle and become the tyrant he always thought he was.

Mr security is auditioning for Mr genocide.

It is more complicated than just absorbing the population. The combined countries of the West could easily absorb all Israelis as well but that won't happen either. If the M.E. countries genuinely support an independent Palestinian state then assisting in removing Palestinians from it would be counter productive at best and assisting in ethnic cleansing at worst. The reality of what would happen if say Egypt said "we will take 1 million Palestinians" is that a million of them would be herded out like cattle, many of whom probably wouldn't want to leave.

Regarding the refugee issue, I don't think it says much about the Muslim world, the countries you mentioned were largely destroyed as a result of western actions, most likely the resettlement/refugee plans were designed and approved by those countries as well.

Also it isn't as if refugees have the luxury of choice, they go where they can and wherever will provide the best start at a new life. If my country was bombed into the stone age I would rather be a refugee in a foreign land that gave me a house/food/job/etc than be living in a refugee camp in a more culturally similar area. It is nice we offer those things but it isn't something every country can feasibly do even if they wanted to. Given the major issues this type of mass immigration has been causing in western countries I wouldn't say it's a great investment either.

its pure barbarism, how the US can not only allow but SUPPORT this is beyond me.

Fuck the Palestinians, bunch of savages. Actually, that goes for all Muslims. Fucking trash.

do you have a solid proof ? show me, i'd like to see how you conclude that without understanding what just happened out there.

seems like a comfortable comment based on your own false perception of this conflict, like many others who just check and refresh news
and comment when it fits their own agendas.

did you see the 30-40 babies that Hamas shot and burn ? babies, i mean.. real babies at the real age of babies.

or maybe it's a jew conspiracy and we went out to bomb Gaza and killed our own children ?

Time will tell tbh. There is satellite on everything there