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Sep 9 2018 12:14pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 9 Sep 2018 14:13)
That ignores the flat facts though

The speed of the market is run by investor confidence and consumer confidence. Which was better under Trump because he reduced regulations

There was an objective difference between the two


The reason why the US is so successful is because of the shifting policies.
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Sep 9 2018 12:19pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ Sep 9 2018 02:14pm)
The reason why the US is so successful is because of the shifting policies.


Definitely. Trump was the spearhead for both the taxcuts and deregulations. We agree on that right?
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Sep 9 2018 12:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 9 2018 07:06pm)
Thing is, most liberals on the Forum have approximately the same stance.


Overall the US's economy has renounced quite well and is in a better position than, Europe's is atm. There ought to be some bonuses after a recession for those whom have paid most of the price.. If that is the middle class than it would be the right class to cut some slack. However from what I've seen, it seems like many of the middle class have become the bottom class, making them not getting the cut... I could stand corrected on that as a foreigner looking at the economy.

Tbh though, Trump is trying a lot on boosting the economy, things are looking better than what I'd initially though would happen on the tax cut on corporations.. However, an increasing debt higher than inflation during the good days, seems troublesome.
/e: and in retrospect reading this, his methods are at the least troublesome as well, internationally, with some undesired side effects yet to be seen, on top of what we already see, like the topic about US farmers in the trade war..

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Overall the US's economy has renounced quite well and is in a better position than, Europe's is atm. There ought to be some bonuses after a recession for those whom have paid most of the price.. If that is the middle class than it would be the right class to cut some slack. However from what I've seen, it seems like many of the middle class have become the bottom class, making them not getting the cut... I could stand corrected on that as a foreigner looking at the economy.

Tbh though, Trump is trying a lot on boosting the economy, things are looking better than what I'd initially though would happen on the tax cut on corporations.. However, an increasing debt higher than inflation during the good days, seems troublesome.
/e: in retrospect reading this, his methods are at the least troublesome as well, internationally, with some undesired side effects yet to be seen, on top of what we already see, like the topic about US farmers..


This is not only incorrect but delusional. The middle class and upper middle class brackets are both higher than they were in 2008.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 9 2018 07:37pm)
This is not only incorrect but delusional. The middle class and upper middle class brackets are both higher than they were in 2008.


That can be a reason why less of the middle class is considered to be middle class: upping brackets. You, as always will need to put more effort on explaining the situation.

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Sep 9 2018 12:50pm
Afaik, that's a minor cultural difference between Americans and Europeans: Americans tend to define/mean the term "middle class" more broadly than Europeans. With middle class, we Europeans typically mean the 4th-9th decile of the income distribution, while Americans typically mean the 2nd-9th decile.

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What I can't figure out is why no one reads topic titles.

We have topics for Trump, we have a new topic for Obama. Yet everyone "discusses" (if you can call it that) in the ONLY picture topic we have.
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Quote (Ghot @ Sep 9 2018 07:54pm)
What I can't figure out is why no one reads topic titles.

We have topics for Trump, we have a new topic for Obama. Yet everyone "discusses" (if you can call it that) in the ONLY picture topic we have.


page 2261, Op means shit to what we discuss here, stop censoring freedom of speech. ;)

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page 2261, Op means shit to what we discuss here, stop censoring freedom of speech.




Use post #'s coz page numbers only work if everyone has the same amount of posts per page. Duh.
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Quote (Ghot @ Sep 9 2018 11:54am)
What I can't figure out is why no one reads topic titles.

We have topics for Trump, we have a new topic for Obama. Yet everyone "discusses" (if you can call it that) in the ONLY picture topic we have.


If you didn't post fake news and racist factless right wing grandma memes (not to be confused with humor and/or wit) there would be less conversations

Conversations about pics posted seems plenty reasonable to me

Your quote pics are usually not from the people they claim to be from, misleading and/or inaccurate

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