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Nov 5 2020 08:09am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 5 2020 08:03am)
i agree in broad strokes but also immoral people tend to breed an environment where competition can ruin teamwork.

and i'd say when trump isnt tweeting he's working, not the other way around lol.



When he isnt tweeting hes watching fox or golfing
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Nov 5 2020 08:19am
So far so good:

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California Proposition 16. End Diversity Ban
Repeals a constitutional provision that made it unlawful for California's state and local governments to discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to people based on race, ethnicity, national origin or sex.
72% reporting

No
56% 6,550,859

Yes
44% 5,145,629


Cali's attempt to reinstitute racism and segregation taking a severe hit. Lots of votes left to go, but hopefully the No wins out.
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Nov 5 2020 08:22am
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 5 2020 07:48am)
I would agree with this. You are very smart.

I think personal character matters a lot. I don't think a paranoid narcissistic reactionary extraordinarily petty person should be the ruler, but those men definitely are more often than not.

My biggest problem with Donald Trump was making fun of disabled people, disrespecting women, justifying police brutality when it was obviously wrong.

Since he didn't do much in terms of policy there isn't a lot to criticize. But personally, I dislike him, because he is the embodiment of all seven deadly sins (thanks Santara) and as a man is dishonorable and less than.

Also his fake love for the military gets under my skin. You don't get to dodge the draft and act like a patriot warrior. This is the same as wearing a fake military uniform to me.


You're welcome. That was as close as I tend to get in injecting my faith into a political discussion.
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Nov 5 2020 08:32am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 5 2020 09:19am)
So far so good:

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California Proposition 16. End Diversity Ban
Repeals a constitutional provision that made it unlawful for California's state and local governments to discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to people based on race, ethnicity, national origin or sex.
72% reporting

No
56% 6,550,859

Yes
44% 5,145,629


Cali's attempt to reinstitute racism and segregation taking a severe hit. Lots of votes left to go, but hopefully the No wins out.


State should stay out of it all ideally and just be the sandbox we play in together in the social contract (imo). I like this law.

One of the biggest lessons in my meager two semesters of sociology is that when the government tries to help people it ends up hurting people (welfare, affirmative action), and when the government tries to stop people it assist them by forcing them to specialize in the face of adversity (Alien Land Laws, Chinese Exclusion Act, which effectively made it so Chinese-Americans couldn't do anything but own restaurants and Laundromats in certain geographical areas).

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Nov 5 2020 08:34am
So basically it's looking like media outlets will be able to call PA pretty soon?
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Nov 5 2020 08:36am
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 5 2020 06:32am)
State should stay out of it all ideally and just be the sandbox we play in together in the social contract (imo). I like this law.

One of the biggest lessons in my meager two semesters of sociology is that when the government tries to help people it ends up hurting people (welfare, affirmative action), and when the government tries to stop people it assist them by forcing them to specialize in the face of adversity (Alien Land Laws, Chinese Exclusion Act, which effectively made it so Chinese-Americans couldn't do anything but own restaurants and Laundromats in certain geographical areas).


Indeed. The proposition is so specific though. They were seeking to make it so that state and local governments themselves could discriminate (and yes, providing preferential treatment is also discrimination). This particular proposition has nothing to do with the Private Market. However, if it passes, it will undoubtedly be used against the private market. Seeing measures such as this [hopefully] fail gives me hope that California is not completely lost afterall.

Quote (Kayeto @ Nov 5 2020 06:34am)
So basically it's looking like media outlets will be able to call PA pretty soon?


I wouldn't expect to know a winner for sure until January, tbh. Recounts, lawsuits, and more are far too likely at this point.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 08:36am
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Nov 5 2020 08:37am
Damn still not over? Hurry up and make Biden the president already.
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Nov 5 2020 08:42am
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324353932022480896



This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 5 2020 08:42am
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Nov 5 2020 08:54am
The best thing i saw last night was on Foxnews. They literally showed right-wing protestors in Arizona LITERALLY saying "Count the votes, count the votes!" then the same right wing protestors in Georgia saying "Stop counting votes, stop counting votes!"

Kudos to Foxnews for actually covering both sides equally cuz that was fucking hilarious.
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