Quote (fender @ 8 Sep 2018 22:59)
to be fair, his prediction was based on the assumption that future administrations would be committed to at least SOME level of fiscal responsibility - which the strong economy that obama handed over to trump would certainly have allowed.
funding a stimulus package for a healthy economy by accelerating the deficit, just to boost some numbers, is of course highly irresponsible and probably counter-productive long term, but unsurprisingly the cult just conveniently ignores that part and simplisticly focuses on the shiny stuff waved in front of their faces.
most likely it will be up to a democrat to fix that one day - history repeats itself...
so the guy who added $10
trillion in debt over a span of just 8 years is the fiscally responsible one while his successor, who is continuing to run up the debt at the exact same pace, is somehow the irresponsible one? not to forget that debt always has to be viewed relative to the size of the economy - $1 trillion in debt per year is slightly less insane with a soaring economy thats growing by 4% per year than when it comes with an anemic economy.
Quote (IchBinDaddy @ 8 Sep 2018 23:18)
Uhh.... Obama’s economic policies are in full swing right now...
He inherited a shit storm from Bush and fixed it.
It takes more than 8 years to get out of a hole like that.
Proof is in the slope/rate of change/trend still on an upward hill from obama era. If he sucked, it would’ve dropped and be going up... but it’s been an upward trend
Also, post some videos of metal in that thread you swine
so the economic recovery from the great recession conveniently took exactly the 8 years until obama was out of office to get into full swing, and "against all odds and logic" picked up pace exactly when trump took office?
quite the coincidence, isnt it?
Quote (Thor123422 @ 8 Sep 2018 23:02)
Believe it or not the Middle East was not always so backwards. A major factor in the current wave of radicalization and conservative thinking was the direct result of our efforts to galvaniz them against an atheistic Russia.
Additionally, just because a specific country was not directly destabilize to does not mean they will not feel the cultural overlap with destabilized regions
You're trying to treat these things like they exist in a vacuum but they don't. It's really the same reason why a gun ban in California is ineffective, you can't surround yourself with guns and then declare yourself gun free and expect guns to suddenly stopped coming in.
again: how does this explain the worsening situation in countries like pakistan or indonesia in recent years? and if this surge of radical conservative interpretations of islam was spurred mostly by the efforts of the West, then why does it continue, why dont the societies in muslim countries push it back and instead double down on it?
Quote (ThatAlex @ 8 Sep 2018 23:50)
George W. Bush's War on Terror had a lot of Christian undertones. The "good vs the evil" theme was a significant motivating factor for the the Iraq War. Bush sold it as more than just defeating terrorism across the globe, it was also about vanquishing evildoers.
yup. and the result of this error is that both his successors, obama and trump, ran on much more isolationist platforms. the result of this error is that the zealous, interventionist, morally imperialist strain of american foreign policy has been decimated and wont be coming back for a long long time. which proves that our society is able to resist and heal itself from the religiously motivated fanaticism.