I would agree with this. You are very smart.

I think personal character matters a lot. I don't think a paranoid narcissistic reactionary extraordinarily petty person should be the ruler, but those men definitely are more often than not.

My biggest problem with Donald Trump was making fun of disabled people, disrespecting women, justifying police brutality when it was obviously wrong.

Since he didn't do much in terms of policy there isn't a lot to criticize. But personally, I dislike him, because he is the embodiment of all seven deadly sins (thanks Santara) and as a man is dishonorable and less than.

Also his fake love for the military gets under my skin. You don't get to dodge the draft and act like a patriot warrior. This is the same as wearing a fake military uniform to me.

This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 5 2020 07:51am

Fuckin libertarians not voting for the emperor.

Also - fucking libertarian party doing paperwork right and not letting GOP get em kicked off the ballot in key states.

I don't believe personal Character matters much at all, in all honesty, as long as it's merely character flaws, I'm fine.

A person can be a truly disgusting human being in their personal life and opinions, as well as how they speak, yet be the absolute professional when it comes to getting the job done.

I'd rather have the best surgeon in the world who also happens to believe that hanging gays for being animals in the name of Allah operating on me than an upstanding shining ray of light who says and thinks all the right things who can't reliably cut an apple.

Again, actions speak louder than words. This is the end point of why Trump was elected. This is the end point of why, no matter how much stupid shit he says, so many came out to vote him in for another four years. His words are shit. But his actions? He did everything he could to do what he promised to do. We all knew many of his promises would require acts of congress that wouldn't happen, but hey, some things didn't, which he's done.

Rational people can deal with crassness in order to get results. Only completely irrational people expect every person they meet to think and behave according to their own norm. That's such an insane ideology, I'd be more tempted to talk shit on that than Islam or Christianity.

i mean its technically possible, but i find it exceedingly rare in reality. the two generally dont mix, just as people too concerned with morality rarely make good workers.

I would rather avoid false dichotomies altogether as neither scenario sounds good, and I know some surgeons who are good and not disgusting humans. I'm not surprised that so many people came back out and voted for Trump...they reelected George Bush and his first term wasn't a highlights reel to say the least. Conservatism and Liberalism is bigger than individuals and that is why we vote for people we don't like sometimes.

People aren't going to stop being conservative Christians because the anti-christ was nominated for the GOP, they are going to ride it out and still not vote for abortion.




People who are afflicted with the cognitive distortions we are discussing (racism, sexism) usually aren't the best of thinkers anyway, i agree.

This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 5 2020 07:59am

The best workers I've ever managed were mostly people I would never want to spend time with outside of work.

I've dealt with needlessly cruel, heartless, and complete amoral people. Many ex-felons, and more. People you would think it's best to avoid.

The thing is, those who routinely experience the worst in people, life, and themselves, don't hold any strange armchair idealisms about how things "should be". They work to fix what they can.

As employees, they tend to be some of the best, as well as most quiet and least likely to complain. Super reliable, and often end up getting promoted up to whatever point they can continue to get the job done.

I'll agree that those super concerned with morality end up spending as much time complaining in HR as working, and tend to get themselves fired. Focus on work is key.

In this, Trump's a god damned superman. Near as I can tell, he sleeps 2 hours every 6 months, and when he's not working, he's tweeting. If there's one thing most of us would like, it's that he gives up the stupid tweeting, sticks to the purely informative, and otherwise, if he wins just carry on carrying on.



We already confirmed you're a racist sexist with your rant against white males. No need to harp on it, we weren't speaking of you specifically.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 5 2020 08:03am

Biden looks up in PA. If he wins it, he gets past 270 without NV, AZ, or GA.

https://trumpgolfcount.com/



You're right...working on his handicap lol.





This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 5 2020 08:05am

i agree in broad strokes but also immoral people tend to breed an environment where competition can ruin teamwork.

and i'd say when trump isnt tweeting he's working, not the other way around lol.

Hah! Fair enough, on both points.



Presidents need exercise. Clinton and Bush preferred jogging. Obama and Trump prefer golf. Trump nearly always works on the course though, holds meets on the course, etc.

As far as the dollar figure goes, that's the most misleading thing you could ever post. 99% of all that cost would be involved no matter what he did, as it's security team and transportation based.