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very true, and also kind of ironic given the average age of fox news viewers...

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 Mar 2020 20:59)
Sure. I just wanted to point out that the US total number overtaking Italy does not mean that the situation in the US is already worse, or even comparable yet, to the Italian one.


no, and it certainly is NOT at this point. northern italy in particular is probably the most devastated region (by this virus) in the world right now, at least amongst those of which we can expect somewhat objective reporting.

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Quote (fender @ 26 Mar 2020 21:02)
https://i.imgur.com/ec9kO5k.jpg

very true, and also kind of ironic given the average age of fox news viewers...


There's a huge difference between "saving the stock markets" vs "saving the real economy and preserving real jobs".

Millions of people are currently losing their economic base of life. This is not a problem limited to banksters and fat cats.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 Mar 2020 21:06)
There's a huge difference between "saving the stock markets" vs "saving the real economy and preserving real jobs".

Millions of people are currently losing their economic base of life. This is not a problem limited to banksters and fat cats.


i just assume you misunderstood the message, because not even you would suggest that those 'experts' and political 'leaders' that are pushing for a quick return to normal, against the advice of virtually every single medical professional and common sense, are concerned with the lives of ordinary people - if they were, they would not be invited on FOX (or establishment MSM for that matter)...
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 Mar 2020 16:06)
There's a huge difference between "saving the stock markets" vs "saving the real economy and preserving real jobs".

Millions of people are currently losing their economic base of life. This is not a problem limited to banksters and fat cats.

fender doesnt work for a living so helping out those who lost their jobs as a result of the coronavirus is lost on him
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Quote (balrog66 @ 26 Mar 2020 19:06)
Moving 3-day and 5-day averages of growth of admitted patients and growth of tests.

Getting some small hope here.

https://i.imgur.com/iezkOYo.png


NL still not in lockdown mode ?




Quote (fender @ 26 Mar 2020 20:56)
absolutely, a valid point ofc. just like the fact that america had more time to prepare, a significantly lower median age, and lower population density...


The most important is that trump's hotels re-open as early as possible.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 26 2020 09:16pm)
NL still not in lockdown mode ?






The most important is that trump's hotels re-open as early as possible.


As I've posted before, we're in lockdown for all intents and purposes but it being called a 'lockdown'.

https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2020/03/23/stricter-measures-to-control-coronavirus

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Stay home as much as possible. Leave the house only to go to work if you cannot work at home, to buy groceries or to take care of others. You can go out to get some fresh air, but do not do so in groups. Always keep a good distance from other people (at least 1.5 metres) and avoid all social activities and groups of people. At home: limit the number of visitors to 3 and keep sufficient distance (1.5m) from each other.

As before, if you have a cough or a cold: stay home. If someone in your household develops a fever, all the members of the household should stay home. This does not apply to key workers in crucial sectors and critical processes, unless they themselves get sick.

All gatherings are prohibited until 1 June, even gatherings of less than 100 people. This is a tightening of the existing ban (that applied up to 6 April). An exception is made for funerals and religious weddings. More information about this will follow soon.

Public transport and shops are required to take measures to ensure that people keep a good distance. For instance, by limiting the number of people allowed in the shop at the same time.

Businesses in contact-based industries, such as hair salons and beauty parlours, must be closed until 6 April. Other professionals, such as physiotherapists, are urged to work via video calls wherever possible.

Casinos are now subject to the same restrictions as establishments serving food and drink, and will be closed from 24 March 2020.

Establishments such as holiday parks must put measures in place so that people keep a distance of 1.5 metres from each other. Failing this, local authorities may order these locations to close.

Mayors may designate areas, like parks, beaches or neighbourhoods, where people are not allowed to collect together. The authorities will take action against groups of 3 or more people, who do not all maintain a distance of 1.5 metres from each other. This does not apply to children or to people in the same household, such as families.

The ban on gatherings does not apply to public markets as these play a crucial role in bringing food to consumers in some parts of the country. Municipalities and market superintendents will examine ways that a good distance between members of the public can be maintained.

The government also wants to be able to enforce existing measures more effectively. Mayors will have the option of enacting an emergency bye-law, to more easily and more quickly initiate enforcement activities. Mayors can also order specific locations to be closed, including parks, beaches and campsites. And people who violate the rules can be fined.


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Mar 26 2020 02:24pm
>Tie healthcare to employment.
>Health crisis costs people to lose their job.
>People then lose insurance.
>SurprisedPikachu.jpg
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Quote (balrog66 @ 26 Mar 2020 21:22)
As I've posted before, we're in lockdown for all intents and purposes but it being called a 'lockdown'.

https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2020/03/23/stricter-measures-to-control-coronavirus


OK, so i see no difference with others countries now ...


Regarding ‘herd immunity’ strategy

Limited evidence
Dr Judith Wasserheit, chair of the University of Washington department of global health and co-director of the MetaCenter for Pandemic Preparedness and Global Health Security, said there is limited evidence for the approach and that it would be difficult to protect the vulnerable.
“It would be quite challenging to separate older adults from potentially infectious younger members of the population,” Dr Wasserheit said.
“In addition, we do not know how frequently immunity occurs after infection with this virus, and if it occurs, how strong that immunity is and how long it lasts.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-dutch-adopt-controversial-herd-immunity-strategy-1.4204578


Personally i think ‘herd immunity’ is not even a strategy, but more likely a way to be sloppy on containment measures.
Simply because the time to contaminate enough people WITHOUT overriding ICU capacity a vaccine could very certainly be finished.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 26 2020 02:47pm
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Mar 26 2020 02:41pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 26 Mar 2020 21:24)
>Tie healthcare to employment.
>Health crisis costs people to lose their job.
>People then lose insurance.
>SurprisedPikachu.jpg


'MURICA, FUCK YEAH!!!
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