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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 21 2018 09:21pm)
So how it's evolving ? I read somewhere that labor could become a minority governement ? Not sure it's a good idea... For them :lol:
I got surprised to see Spain ready to cancel the whole thing, maybe it's just a maneuver to add pressure on "negotiations".

Is it 100% sure that Mrs May Withdrawal will be rejected ?


I haven't heard anything about a Labour minority government, but the idea is laughable. They need to win an election, they need the seats.

Spain can't cancel the withdrawal agreement, they can only vote against it. Due to the likelihood of the current withdrawal agreement being rejected in our own parliament for being disadvantageous to the UK, it doesn't make sense for the EU to try to get more concessions.

Not 100% sure. The majority of Tory MPs will vote for it, I'd guess around 250. Backbench Tory brexiteers, Lib Dems and the SNP will certainly all vote against, that's around 110. The DUP have an agreement with the Conservatives to vote with the government, but it's not enforceable and they hate the deal so that's another 10 MP's who are probably voting against. Labour have 257 seats so if about 50 vote for the deal then it will pass, but it's unlikely.
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I haven't heard anything about a Labour minority government, but the idea is laughable. They need to win an election, they need the seats.

Spain can't cancel the withdrawal agreement, they can only vote against it. Due to the likelihood of the current withdrawal agreement being rejected in our own parliament for being disadvantageous to the UK, it doesn't make sense for the EU to try to get more concessions.

Not 100% sure. The majority of Tory MPs will vote for it, I'd guess around 250. Backbench Tory brexiteers, Lib Dems and the SNP will certainly all vote against, that's around 110. The DUP have an agreement with the Conservatives to vote with the government, but it's not enforceable and they hate the deal so that's another 10 MP's who are probably voting against. Labour have 257 seats so if about 50 vote for the deal then it will pass, but it's unlikely.



the article was on bbc...
ah this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46288429



k so... Im still interested to know the final vote, just to observe how crucial were the few seats lost by tories during last elections.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/21/amber-rudd-parliament-will-stop-a-no-deal-brexit

That should be nice because it was my theory few months ago (maybe you remember it) ... That UK parliament was able to stop the whole thing because no one would be personally involved by this decision.

Question; Can your parliament still really stop the Brexit ?

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the article was on bbc...
ah this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46288429



k so... Im still interested to know the final vote, just to observe how crucial were the few seats lost by tories during last elections.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/21/amber-rudd-parliament-will-stop-a-no-deal-brexit

That should be nice because it was my theory few months ago (maybe you remember it) ... That UK parliament was able to stop the whole thing because no one would be personally involved by this decision.

Question; Can your parliament still really stop the Brexit ?


That's the Labour chancellor of the exchequer saying that in the article. He has a habit of saying silly things.

I think parliament can only credibly stop brexit by having a 2nd referendum.
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That's the Labour chancellor of the exchequer saying that in the article. He has a habit of saying silly things.

I think parliament can only credibly stop brexit by having a 2nd referendum.


A conflict between government & parliament for a "who will take the blame" ...
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A conflict between government & parliament for a "who will take the blame" ...


May has been the designated scapegoat since the day she moved into Downing St. 10.

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May has been the designated scapegoat since the day she moved into Downing St. 10.


She designated herself... I'm not 100% sure she will take the blame.
I think she can transfer it, at least partially, on the Pro-Brexit populists.




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Rejected asylum-seeker ‘slit throat’ of elderly German man who gave him job & shelter at his home

The man’s daughter, a charity worker, had suggested he hire the asylum seeker.

https://www.rt.com/news/444585-german-man-killed-refugee/

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Tue 20 Nov 2018 00.46 GMT
Police need public support to arrest violent offenders
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/20/police-need-public-support-to-arrest-violent-offenders
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Police officers could start letting violent suspects go if they do not get the backing of the public, a federation leader has warned.

a flying kick at a female officer, who then lies dazed in the road clutching her head, feet away from a passing bus


Thu 22 Nov 2018 06.00 GMT
Met police launch drive to balance the gender ranks
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/22/met-police-launches-drive-to-recruit-women-to-male-dominated-ranks
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Cressida Dick says she wants half of London’s officers to be female – up from current 27%




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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46328439

meanwhile in france the riots against macrons policy get worse by the day
who would have thought that an elitist rothschild banker making politics for the rich, raising financial pressure for the working class and making degrading comments about the common folk, would be unpopular :lol:

how the press celebrated the man and now he is closer to civil war in his country than anything
mister "make our planet great again" should rather take care of his own business first
i guess the people who got talked into voting for macron to stop le pen must be rather unhappy now?
macrons approval ratings of about 20% make donald trump look like the most popular guy in the world

the french deserve our respect for fighting globalist oppressors like macron

hey sauci, are you sure you are doing ok over there?




https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article184406610/Macron-nennt-gewaltsame-Proteste-gegen-seine-Steuerpolitik-beschaemend.html

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