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Nov 12 2021 06:42pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Nov 12 2021 04:20pm)
he was chocking way before Derek I clean shitstains Chauvin got to the scene from fentanyl overdose.


:rofl: no
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Nov 12 2021 06:43pm
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saint floyd is on video recording confessing he "cant breathe" while just exiting his car and still standing upright
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Nov 12 2021 06:45pm
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saint floyd is on video recording confessing he "cant breathe" while just exiting his car and still standing upright


It's not what killed him, though
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It's not what killed him, though


yup, since it was caused by a mix of COVID-positive & a lethal dose of drug in his system
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Nov 12 2021 06:50pm
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yup, since it was caused by a mix of COVID-positive & a lethal dose of drug in his system


Covid unlikely had anything to do with it, he died of heart failure.
His heart failed because he already had extreme risk factors for heart failure. He had 90% blocked coronal arteries, when 30% is mild heart disease, 50% is serious and needs a bypass, 70% is critical and needs an immediate bypass to not drop dead, and 90% is only seen in autopsies of people who died of heart failure. That, and the 3:1 ratio of left ventricular hypertrophy which is far beyond the level you'd see in heart disease deaths, and a 200% enlarged heart which is several standard deviations outside the healthy range. So he had already been polysubstance abusing drugs throughout the day, already had a large dose of fentanyl in his system, then saw the police coming and downed an entire bag of fentanyl-percocets, so many he couldn't even digest them all. And unsurprisingly, had an immediate lethal overdose.
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Nov 12 2021 06:50pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Nov 13 2021 12:42am)
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georgie boy caused all of that. first he was a criminal. second he refused to get in the police car because he was chocking from fentanyl. that is what caused his death.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 12 2021 04:50pm)
Covid unlikely had anything to do with it, he died of heart failure.
His heart failed because he already had extreme risk factors for heart failure. He had 90% blocked coronal arteries, when 30% is mild heart disease, 50% is serious and needs a bypass, 70% is critical and needs an immediate bypass to not drop dead, and 90% is only seen in autopsies of people who died of heart failure. That, and the 3:1 ratio of left ventricular hypertrophy which is far beyond the level you'd see in heart disease deaths, and a 200% enlarged heart which is several standard deviations outside the healthy range. So he had already been polysubstance abusing drugs throughout the day, already had a large dose of fentanyl in his system, then saw the police coming and downed an entire bag of fentanyl-percocets, so many he couldn't even digest them all. And unsurprisingly, had an immediate lethal overdose.


He had meth and heroin in his system. It's called speed balling. Stimulates mixed with opioids. This is dangerous and 100% cause heart failure
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Covid unlikely had anything to do with it, he died of heart failure.
His heart failed because he already had extreme risk factors for heart failure. He had 90% blocked coronal arteries, when 30% is mild heart disease, 50% is serious and needs a bypass, 70% is critical and needs an immediate bypass to not drop dead, and 90% is only seen in autopsies of people who died of heart failure. That, and the 3:1 ratio of left ventricular hypertrophy which is far beyond the level you'd see in heart disease deaths, and a 200% enlarged heart which is several standard deviations outside the healthy range. So he had already been polysubstance abusing drugs throughout the day, already had a large dose of fentanyl in his system, then saw the police coming and downed an entire bag of fentanyl-percocets, so many he couldn't even digest them all. And unsurprisingly, had an immediate lethal overdose.


lefties be like george floyd had fentanyl in his system because his body was naturally producing it.
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Nov 12 2021 06:59pm
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He had meth and heroin in his system. It's called speed balling. Stimulates mixed with opioids. This is dangerous and 100% cause heart failure


The amounts metabolized pointed to him doing the other drugs much earlier or the previous day. Its likely that he was speed balling the previous night, then took some fentanyl percocets that morning, then downed the rest of the bag immediately prior to dying.
The autopsy made the case so clearcut once it was out. A massive lethal dose of unmetabolized fentanyl, far above the lethal dose, along with large amounts of metabolized fentanyl and other drugs. There's no way in hell a guy with 90% block coronal arteries, 3:1 LVH and 2x normal heart size could have survived enough fentanyl to kill an elephant in the hours prior to his death and just have it all partially metabolized by that point. So the only explanation is he had some previously, then some immediately prior to his death. And there's no way he'd survive the amount in his system then. So he was clearly going to die from the fentanyl. So at that point, the only argument the prosecution could make (they didn't, nor did they have to) is that he was somehow killed by being choked out before the fentanyl could kill him. A sort of inverse of the famous 'frozen hobo' thought experiment, arguing he'd already taken fatal poison but died from the knee. Except there's zero evidence for that whatsoever, because there's no physical trauma of any kind from the knee, nor did floyd even exhibit any new responses while held that he wasn't already exhibiting before he was restrained.
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Nov 12 2021 07:18pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 12 2021 07:59pm)
The amounts metabolized pointed to him doing the other drugs much earlier or the previous day. Its likely that he was speed balling the previous night, then took some fentanyl percocets that morning, then downed the rest of the bag immediately prior to dying.
The autopsy made the case so clearcut once it was out. A massive lethal dose of unmetabolized fentanyl, far above the lethal dose, along with large amounts of metabolized fentanyl and other drugs. There's no way in hell a guy with 90% block coronal arteries, 3:1 LVH and 2x normal heart size could have survived enough fentanyl to kill an elephant in the hours prior to his death and just have it all partially metabolized by that point. So the only explanation is he had some previously, then some immediately prior to his death. And there's no way he'd survive the amount in his system then. So he was clearly going to die from the fentanyl. So at that point, the only argument the prosecution could make (they didn't, nor did they have to) is that he was somehow killed by being choked out before the fentanyl could kill him. A sort of inverse of the famous 'frozen hobo' thought experiment, arguing he'd already taken fatal poison but died from the knee. Except there's zero evidence for that whatsoever, because there's no physical trauma of any kind from the knee, nor did floyd even exhibit any new responses while held that he wasn't already exhibiting before he was restrained.


If Chauvin was found innocent, there would be another riot and dozens of people could have died.

Making the guilty verdict the choice that leads to the least amount of deaths and damage.

So its entirely possible that the weak police are responsible for this miscarriage of justice.

Why don't we use water cannons anymore?
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