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oh really? because as i understand it, immigrants in the USA (undocumented and documented), commit FEWER violent crimes than the average american:

https://www.businessinsider.de/undocumented-aliens-violent-crime-murder-statistics-data-2018-8?r=US&IR=T
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbitts-murder-reignites-debate-over-immigrant-crime/1060792002/
https://wapo.st/2M6Ov6l




oh come on, you don't have to walk around, personally shake everybody's hand, and ask for their green card in order to make sure you only employ legal workers. it's their responsibility, and the fact that they lied about having him checked through the e-verify system further indicates they were aware of what's going on there.

don't get me wrong, i'm not even trying to apply the idiotic right wing 'logic' of suggesting they are therefore to blame for his crimes, of course not. but they are part of the reason that incentivises illegal immigration in the first place...


If the family is rich my guess is they have a don't ask don't tell relationship with their farm manager. But I agree they're a part of the problem that they are publicly against for political reasons.

Overall tho iowa is a weird place. Its conservative but with weird liberal ideas on a few things
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If the family is rich my guess is they have a don't ask don't tell relationship with their farm manager. But I agree they're a part of the problem that they are publicly against for political reasons.

Overall tho iowa is a weird place. Its conservative but with weird liberal ideas on a few things


prob explains why it swung from comfortably Obama twice to comfortably Trump. That or ‘russia’
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prob explains why it swung from comfortably Obama twice to comfortably Trump. That or ‘russia’


Trump would have lost iowa in 2020 without the eu soybean deal. Them fuckers don't play
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If the family is rich my guess is they have a don't ask don't tell relationship with their farm manager. But I agree they're a part of the problem that they are publicly against for political reasons.

Overall tho iowa is a weird place. Its conservative but with weird liberal ideas on a few things


oh, i'm sure they were smart enough to maintain plausible deniability. we're not in a court of law here though, so let's just say it like it is (and you did): they tell their 'farm manager', or whoever is responsible, to employ as cheap as possible. ofc THEY know what that means, HE knows what that means, everybody does. and again, unlike the despicable hacks trying to politicise this, i'm not blaming anyone but the murderer for this crime - all i'm saying is that IF you have to stoop so low and blame others for mollie's tragic death, why spare the guys who incentivised rivera's illegal (still not confirmed afaik) immigration? exactly, party affiliation...
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True. The Democratic party is incompetent. I can't trust them to get much of anything done, let alone successfully check and balance Trump (especially since they don't have the Congressional numbers to do so).

But to be fair, the GOP also couldn't prevent Trump from winning their own primary. Make no mistake, it was a hostile party takeover. However, at least the GOP primary was democratic and primarily left it up to the party's voters.

But it took the incompetence of both major parties to result in the election of this demagogue.
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