Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 23 2020 09:24pm)

And yet plenty of people call me Daddy. ;)

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And here's why:

• Trump referred to to the Marines killed in WWI at the Battle of Belleau Wood as "suckers"

• Trump rejected a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial in France because he feared the rain would mess up his hair and referred to America's military dead and injured as "losers"

• Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing.

• In May 2020, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

• The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

• Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew.

• After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

• On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

• Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve

• Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11

• Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience

• Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."

• Pardoned multiple war criminals, which was a crushing betrayal to the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command. (May&Nov, 2019)

• Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection

• Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.

• Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

• On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.

• In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew to refuel at a commercial airport so they could stay overnight at a Trump property

• In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling.

• Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)

• On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall

• On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

• Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)

• Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)

• Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)

• Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay

• He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

• He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)

• He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)

• He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018).

• He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)

• He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances.(reported October 7, 2018)

• Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong

• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

• In January 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)

• Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

• Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)

• Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991

• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

• No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations

Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Sep 2020 09:25)

Slew of military men endorse Biden, lifted from reddit comment section below:

Quote (excellence @ Sep 24 2020 08:52am)

most of that has been long-debunked. the draft-dodging is still funny though because Biden dodged too

im sure the ‘slew of military men’ are the ones who helped ship our young soldiers to no-win useless endless wars destroying villages where brown people live, while they attended cocktail parties and lined their pockets off the profits of the armament companies that politicians left and right gave favorable contracts to.

and the political figures who helped facilitate this? people like Sen Biden (D) who voted FOR the wars of establishment aggression

Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Sep 2020 09:55)

you can copy pasta and bold the debunked items if you'd like.

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Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection

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Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange

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Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

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On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces

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In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew to refuel at a commercial airport so they could stay overnight at a Trump property

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In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling.

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Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)

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On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall

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July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

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Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

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Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)

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Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)

Quote (excellence @ Sep 24 2020 09:48am)

first two were debunked by two-dozen confirmed sources who were. bountygate crashed as soon as someone asked for proof. and the draft dodging is a tie between both candidates

some other doozys:



Vindman went against the chain of command and made spectacle of himself and his rank during testimony. the purple heart is unrelated to his actions


john kelly did this?



good we should keep getting out of Syria, too many US lives lost there and moving forces is part of military strategy. oh wait im sure putin wanted the base and asked for it



good we should keep getting out of Syria, too many US lives lost there and moving forces is part of military strategy. I looked it up. The bombing resulted in no injuries and Turkey was embarrassed to admit their mistake


sounds like a bonus, doesnt hurt the military to have some good food


meddling = firing swamp demons. this helps our veterans


I don’t agree with this action if true - i looked it up and its not a blanket denial of citizenship.



good we are spending less abroad so the funds can be used elsewhere, doesnt hurt the military


this accusation makes no sense. why are prosecuted war criminals serving as navy prosecutors?


so? doesn’t hurt the military


oh boo hoo he commented on mueller


this has nothing to do with the military

the rest is mostly petty gossip, vague comments on policy that never seem to materialize, trump bragging about himself like an idiot, or trump’s personal dispute with mccain or some group who attacked him first

three other key points:

1) the modern left has been anti-military since the Korean war so it’s rich a few generals have supposed support of Biden, maybe it has to do with Biden loving war
2) Trump hasn’t started any new wars so this definitely upsets the military-industrial complex
3) just to reiterate, im sure the ‘slew of military men’ are the ones who helped ship our young soldiers to no-win useless endless wars destroying villages where brown people live, while they attended cocktail parties and lined their pockets off the profits of the armament companies that politicians left and right gave favorable contracts to.

and the political figures who helped facilitate this? people like Sen Biden (D) who voted FOR the wars of establishment aggression

Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Sep 2020 10:55)

i'd say of the 12 you grabbed out of 60 i still dont agree with many of your takes and can see how military men might not either. on McCain for example his spat that was supposed to be personal instead threw shade at thousands of POWs and MIA soldiers. and things like "didnt hurt the military" might still be a really bad look people dont appreciate.

Quote (excellence @ Sep 24 2020 10:01am)

many of them are near-repeats of prior assertions. like i said the rain comment is there 2-3 times. if you really want to me to copy paste the same general rebuttal 5x ill do it this evening after grilling dinner

notice how anyone can make a doozy of a claim now and you have to disprove it, the accuser does not have to justify anything and when called out just say “oops retract”

ive never been a fan of the POW comments. Trump had plenty to respond to mccain on but he went with the lowest blow possible. history shows that mccain attacked trump and called all trump supporters “crazies”, he started it.

Quote (thesnipa @ 24 Sep 2020 11:06)

no need for a megadump, for someone set on ending neocons they're willing to set aside military pride a bit to get there, for some pride is the highest priority. be they generals or rank and file. i think to them its easy to prefer Biden, as he's not as likely to slip up on the procedural stuff or deal low blows, even if he is more likely to start a conflict.