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Nov 24 2022 08:47pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 03:40pm)

would love to see data on vaccinated dying as often as nonvaxxed tho.


The Washington post yesterday.
“Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation.”

https://data.cdc.gov/Public-Health-Surveillance/Rates-of-COVID-19-Cases-or-Deaths-by-Age-Group-and/d6p8-wqjm
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Nov 24 2022 09:30pm
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Nov 25 2022 11:29am)
I donno man... Among 64 high-income countries and territories, the United States stands out for its high levels of gun violence. The US ranks eighth out of 64 for homicides by firearm (age-adjusted). ​Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, two US territories, rank first and third on that list. Firearm injuries tend to be more frequent in places where people have easy access to firearms, according to findings from the 2018 Global Burden of Disease study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).


That's too simplistic if correlation of number guns and ease of access was put into a graph US should be well above other countries but it's not. US was doing ok relative to the rest of the world its only in the last 20-30 years that we have seen an increase.
So something changed. Imo it's during Bush and 9/11 era people began distrusting the government.

To say its just guns and ease of access is a pedestrian NPC hot take. I could also publish a paper being within proximity and having access to something will dramatically increase the frequency of good and bad effects. I mean if you give people cars there will be more accidents. The fact that you need to cite a global study on this glaringly obvious observation is a revelation that this should be the least of your concerns.
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Nov 24 2022 09:59pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 24 2022 04:06am)
Thank you for further proving my point that y’all refuse to focus on what actually could have stopped this.


Which is what?
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Quote (IceMage @ Nov 24 2022 09:59pm)
Which is what?



You quoted post 208. If you read post 207 you would be up to date on where the conversation was when I posted post 208.
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Nov 24 2022 11:44pm
So after reading post 207 do you have anything to add
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Nov 25 2022 12:51am
The left is in fucking pretzels over this one. Holy fuck.


https://twitter.com/chrisplanteshow/status/1595462738318327808?s=46&t=WtvSSApQ0rXuHIO_YAYArQ



The angry man in lipstick says the man who shot the people looks like a man, therefore he is a man. Holy shit :rofl:

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Nov 25 2022 12:52am
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Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 25 2022 06:44am)
So after reading post 207 do you have anything to add ^icemage


fenderp and icerage are both state slaves that are happy to embrace new age ideologies, they're a lost cause, you can't reason with these guys, even if you would have a gun
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Nov 25 2022 01:05am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 25 Nov 2022 12:50)
"But these are the only countries the US shall be compared to, we are told, because the US shall only be compared to “developed” countries when analyzing its murder rate and gun ownership.
And yet, no reason for this is ever given. What is the criteria for deciding that the United States shall be compared to Luxembourg but not to Mexico, which has far more in common with the US than Luxembourg in terms of size, history, ethnic diversity, and geography?

Much of this stems from outdated preconceived and evidence-free notions about the "third world." As Hans Rosling has shown, there is this idea of "we" vs. "them." "We" are the special "developed" countries where people are happy healthy, and live long lives. "Them" is the third world where people live in war-torn squalor and lives there are nasty, brutish, and short. In this mode of thinking there is a bright shiny line between the "developed" world and everyone else, who might as well be considered as a different species.

In truth, there is no dividing line between the alleged "developed" world and everyone else. There is, in fact, only gradual change that takes place as one looks at Belgium, then the US, then Chile, and Turkey, and China, and Mexico. Most countries, as Rosling illustrates here, are in the middle, and this is freely exhibited by a variety of metrics including the UN's human development index.

Once we understand these facts, and do not cling to bizarre xenophobic views about how everyone outside the "developed" world is too dysfunctional and/or subhuman (although few gun control advocates would ever admit to the thought) to bear comparison to the US, we immediately see that the mantra "worst in the developed world" offers an immensely skewed, unrealistic, and even bigoted view of the world and how countries compare to each other.

While ignorance about true global poverty, life expectancy, and family planning are no doubt a source of some of these wrong-headed comparisons, one doesn't need to be the world's biggest cynic to recognize that the US is only compared to a selective list of countries because doing so offers a biased view of the United States that makes it looks like an especially crime-ridden place.

But, we are never allowed to compare the US to middle income countries like Uruguay, Russia, or Mexico because that would show that the US is actually a remarkably safe place in global terms on top of having many more legally owned guns than those countries.

Nevertheless, we've all heard it too many times to count: gun laws in the United States are "insane" because countries like Sweden and Luxembourg have far more restrictive gun laws and are much safer because of it. The US has the highest murder rate in the "developed world" — presumably because of its lax guns laws —we are told again and again.

Few people who repeat this mantra have any standard in their heads of what exactly is the "developed" world. They just repeat the phrase because they have learned to do so. They never acknowledge that when factors beyond per capita GDP are considered, it makes little sense to claim Sweden should be compared to the US, but not Argentina. Such assertions ignore immense differences in culture, size, politics, history, demographics, or ethnic diversity. Comparisons with mono-ethnic Asian countries like Japan and Korea make even less sense."


Hehe alright friend. I stop comparing USA to other developed nations...
Lets compare it to all countries if this makes you happier.

USA ranks number 129 in being the safest county :(
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world

Doesn't help much does it?

Imagine being behind saudis and Zimbabwe hahahahaha (i actually had no idea)
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Nov 25 2022 01:09am
they are also friends with saudis, but will protest for gay rights in qatar (only during world cup tho)
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Quote (Melatonina @ Nov 25 2022 01:01am)
fenderp and icerage are both state slaves that are happy to embrace new age ideologies, they're a lost cause, you can't reason with these guys, even if you would have a gun



I have been resorting to tagging people in my posts because nobody will even respond after they get called on their bullshit.
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