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Aug 9 2022 11:30am
Find a majoritarian position and you'll find DeSantis there championing it. People don't like lockdowns, ergo, DeSantis doesn't like lockdowns. Parents don't want strange men/women showing their 5-year olds sexually explicit material, and DeSantis is right there with him. On issues like abortion, where the majority is far more split, DeSantis wants out of the debate. The only way to rationalize DeSantis as far right is to believe that not showing toddlers pornography is far-right.
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Aug 9 2022 11:31am
so trump gets raided, while the son of the president is publicly buying and consuming crack (us prisons are full with guys on life sentences for less), while buying hookers after daddy sent him some money

the fbi is a disgrace

for all i care trump had it coming, but the states are officially a corrupt third world shithole when the federal police has become a tool to destroy political opponents
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so trump gets raided, while the son of the president is publicly buying and consuming crack (us prisons are full with guys on life sentences for less), while buying hookers after daddy sent him some money

the fbi is a disgrace

for all i care trump had it coming, but the states are officially a corrupt third world shithole when the federal police has become a tool to destroy political opponents


Hillary Clinton is the more comparable example here. Hillary kept classified information on a private server and had them physically destroyed when discovered. The FBI gave her full decorum, her lawyers were kept involved, and unambiguous lies "I didn't know that "C" meant classified!" were allowed to go unpunished. Whether or not Hillary deserved to be punished or not is unimportant. If we think that offenses by powerful people beneath a certain degree shouldn't be punished, that's ok. There's only a problem if the decision to charge/not charge is being made with political calculations in mind.
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 9 2022 01:13pm)
Given up hope he'll ever see any kind of justice for his crimes frankly.


No disrespect intended.

He won't.

e- Every modern president has committed crimes.

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Given up hope he'll ever see any kind of justice for his crimes frankly. All I can hope is that he is somehow disqualified from running again because American democracy barely survived it last time.

Frankly I think the US is fucked though. Even if he doesn't get in there's a whole bunch of utterly unhinged authoritarians waiting in line happy to fill the GOP with deranged conspiracism. I think Biden may well lose the next election and if he does and someone like DeSantis gets in? It's over. The US will turn into Hungary.

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Aug 9 2022 12:01pm
This thread is pure comedy from all the trump lovers

Surprised their keyboards still work being covered in tears :cry:
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Aug 9 2022 12:01pm
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would be a tragedy if the US were like hungary, where streets are actually safe to walk :lol:

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Hillary Clinton is the more comparable example here. Hillary kept classified information on a private server and had them physically destroyed when discovered. The FBI gave her full decorum, her lawyers were kept involved, and unambiguous lies "I didn't know that "C" meant classified!" were allowed to go unpunished. Whether or not Hillary deserved to be punished or not is unimportant. If we think that offenses by powerful people beneath a certain degree shouldn't be punished, that's ok. There's only a problem if the decision to charge/not charge is being made with political calculations in mind.


well, her husband got away with everything so why not her ^_^

the fbi has always been shady, but under hoover it was due to the organisation having its own agenda like the CIA, but now they went full gestapo with the help of the democrats
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Aug 9 2022 12:04pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 9 2022 07:13pm)
Given up hope he'll ever see any kind of justice for his crimes frankly. All I can hope is that he is somehow disqualified from running again because American democracy barely survived it last time.

Frankly I think the US is fucked though. Even if he doesn't get in there's a whole bunch of utterly unhinged authoritarians waiting in line happy to fill the GOP with deranged conspiracism. I think Biden may well lose the next election and if he does and someone like DeSantis gets in? It's over. The US will turn into Hungary.


That's what ppl said when Trump won in 2016. Look what the country's become under Biden. Many can't even pay their food/energy/gas bills anymore.

Also 2016: Trump will start WW3. Well, Biden's got you covered lol
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Quote (YeeHaw @ 9 Aug 2022 18:19)
Have you ever heard an unedited Ron Desantis speech?


Yes. Several.
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