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Mar 31 2022 01:58pm
Quote (Humbletrader @ Mar 31 2022 06:36pm)
Nato lost Syria lost Ukraine lost all over the place. Mate I do not want to offend you but I think it is better nobody crushes anyone and we start living in peace with each other without useless violence.


Which can only happen if we end all war, we have the means but not the will.
Nato could have easily stopped all of those conflicts and many more, we could have stopped uganda and rawanda happening too.
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Mar 31 2022 02:22pm
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So its peaceful non-weaponized study on deadly pathogens in Ukraine, and it was being paid for by the department of defense?
for the explicit purpose of 'asserting independence from russia'?
hol up

I get Hunter Biden being the avenue for corrupt Ukrainian entities to try to exert sway over US policy and bribe US officials to bring funding their way, with a cut "for the big guy". But I assumed it was state department money giving ambiguity and plausible deniability on biolabs. That it was DoD money changes the story
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Government spending records show the Department of Defense awarded an $18.4million contract to Metabiota between February 2014 and November 2016, with $307,091 earmarked for 'Ukraine research projects'.

The US Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) also commissioned B&V to build a Biological Safety Level 3 laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine in 2010, which 'provided enhanced equipment and training to effectively, safely and securely identify especially dangerous pathogens' according to a company press release.

Such labs are used to 'study infectious agents or toxins that may be transmitted through the air and cause potentially lethal infections,' the US Department of Health and Human Services says.


You can't maintain a pretense that military spending on Ukrainian biolabs studying deadly pathogens is totally divorced from bioweapons
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Mar 31 2022 02:27pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 31 2022 08:58pm)
Which can only happen if we end all war, we have the means but not the will.
Nato could have easily stopped all of those conflicts and many more, we could have stopped uganda and rawanda happening too.
Someone NEEDS to police the world if we want to advance as a species.
One world government is coming.


"War... has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nano-machines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control... battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War - has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control. All in the name of averting catastrophe from Weapons of Mass Destruction. And he who controls the battlefield, controls history. War has changed... When the battlefield is under total control, war becomes routine."

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Mar 31 2022 02:28pm
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So its peaceful non-weaponized study on deadly pathogens in Ukraine, and it was being paid for by the department of defense?
for the explicit purpose of 'asserting independence from russia'?
hol up

I get Hunter Biden being the avenue for corrupt Ukrainian entities to try to exert sway over US policy and bribe US officials to bring funding their way, with a cut "for the big guy". But I assumed it was state department money giving ambiguity and plausible deniability on biolabs. That it was DoD money changes the story


You can't maintain a pretense that military spending on Ukrainian biolabs studying deadly pathogens is totally divorced from bioweapons


what other pool of money was available other than Pentagon budget? legit question.
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Mar 31 2022 02:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 31 2022 03:28pm)
what other pool of money was available other than Pentagon budget? legit question.


I assumed state department foreign aid was used for this kind of thing, even if it was aggressive action dressed up with plausible deniability like funding pro-democracy groups in Russia
If state is giving foreign aid to bolster domestic research programs in Ukraine that's one thing, if the military is paying to build BSL-3 facilities for the purpose of studying the most weaponizable pathogens, that's another
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Mar 31 2022 02:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 31 2022 10:28pm)
what other pool of money was available other than Pentagon budget? legit question.


You can't be that naive. DoD funding peaceful research on foreign soil?
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Mar 31 2022 06:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 31 2022 03:22pm)
So its peaceful non-weaponized study on deadly pathogens in Ukraine, and it was being paid for by the department of defense?
for the explicit purpose of 'asserting independence from russia'?
hol up
I get Hunter Biden being the avenue for corrupt Ukrainian entities to try to exert sway over US policy and bribe US officials to bring funding their way, with a cut "for the big guy". But I assumed it was state department money giving ambiguity and plausible deniability on biolabs. That it was DoD money changes the story
You can't maintain a pretense that military spending on Ukrainian biolabs studying deadly pathogens is totally divorced from bioweapons


You realize the department of defense funds A LOT of non-weaponizable research, right?

And the DoD isn't going to fund supervirus-creating research out of anything lower than a BSL4 lab, right?

Really the fact that the DoD was involved at all totally disproves the existence of weaponizable research. Ukraine does not have a BSL4 lab and the DoD is not going to be doing weapons research in unequipped facilities where it can get easily leaked and traced back to them should it start infecting the public.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 31 2022 07:00pm
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Mar 31 2022 07:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 31 2022 01:22pm)
So its peaceful non-weaponized study on deadly pathogens in Ukraine, and it was being paid for by the department of defense?
for the explicit purpose of 'asserting independence from russia'?
hol up

I get Hunter Biden being the avenue for corrupt Ukrainian entities to try to exert sway over US policy and bribe US officials to bring funding their way, with a cut "for the big guy". But I assumed it was state department money giving ambiguity and plausible deniability on biolabs. That it was DoD money changes the story


You can't maintain a pretense that military spending on Ukrainian biolabs studying deadly pathogens is totally divorced from bioweapons


you realize the DOD funds all sorts of non-weapons research right? https://cdmrp.army.mil/funding/prgdefault
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Mar 31 2022 07:17pm
Quote (Sioux @ Mar 31 2022 08:09pm)
you realize the DOD funds all sorts of non-weapons research right? https://cdmrp.army.mil/funding/prgdefault


Yeah, they splash around in private companies, biotechs (non-weaponized stuff like cancer research), both domestic and abroad. I'm invested in a few. The DOD has a role in protecting American interests outside of combat/war/international relations. It's usually a one-time grant here or there unless something really shows promise, then it could be recurring.
@ some of the other willfully ignorant replies, this thread is a fantastic example of people with no fucking knowledge of context or existing paradigms hearing a scary word like DoD and defaulting to "oh well of course it must be something corrupt let's not even consider if there could be a reasonable explanation" bro wtf what a fucking simple and fear-driven way to live :rofl:

This post was edited by CheatEngine on Mar 31 2022 07:32pm
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