https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

Naw.

You don't like the science so you found yourself some 'alternative facts' to deny the science.
We're supposed to believe that nonverbal IQ tests like RPM are biased against black people, that studies of familial inheritance and twins raised apart are somehow biased even when normalized for socio-economic factors and don't demonstrate the overwhelming degree of inheritance they show. We're supposed to just throw out the results of decades of WAIS and WISC and Stanford-Binet because even if they keep showing the same trends over and over, we can just pretend it was the result of some invisible bias. And when the vast majority of the field of leading academics say its accurate, we can dismiss them as quacks. Surely our youtube celebrities know better. Who cares if every study of results in WAIS or RPM conducted over the past few decades shows the same result, you can cherry pick some data and call it cherry picked.

Why is the left so militantly anti-science these days? Not just rejecting science, but like the days of galileo the left wants to crucify any researchers who contradict their dogmatic beliefs

If we're taking IQ research at face value you believe the research linking conservative beliefs to low IQ then?

Oh look you didn't address the point. Surprise surprise.

The statements in that are vague and in no way align with the specific recommendations or conclusion of the bell curve. They just vaguely align and actively leave out the controversial conclusions that are maligned by the professional psychological community.

and let's not forget that you're linking something from 25 years ago. An eternity in science. A massive amount of the field around IQ has been rewritten since then.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 5 2022 07:08pm

You got me all wrong. I don't really care if the workers like to dress up in women's panties or their stance on vax or any of the private lives, heck i don't even care if they are part of some black cult of communist fanatics. As long as they get the job done at the end of the day. There is no reason for me to align myself under the banner of Qannon, I am not TiStuff or fender of this world. I count the dollars coming in and making sure the job is well done. That's all that matters the rest of it just me offloading and watching people like you get triggered.

This country is fked up. Instead of making great products and service its turned its attention to virtue signal and apologists. Don't get me wrong there are still plenty of great that is worth holding on to it just weak people are easily pushed around and this entire subforum is testament to that.

There really is so much good here. Egomaniacs think they can control the world and always know better than us regular people.

Yeah uh I finished the video and I feel personally attacked. Dude is on point with his vaccine hesitant people description. Kinda sucks that Jimmy has stooped that low for money. Damn. I think the stress of the show and all the attention is getting to him. I'm going to dig through Shaun's catalog and find a couple more hours of content now.

My suggestion is The Bell Curve. It's truly amazing the level of detail he goes into about race, IQ, and the political and racial biases of the authors.

Don't worry, "The Bell Curve" popped up in recommended after I watched that art of the pause video. 2:39:45 is going to be a lot to take in.

Edit: JFC Shaun puts work into his videos. I know it's just pictures with overlay but gatdamn he literally puts the page number of everything he's citing.

This post was edited by crackersj on Jan 5 2022 07:56pm

The book laid out the evidence and then made opinionated arguments based on that evidence. Like the prediction of the authoritarian left arising out of a combination of welfare state and elitist attitudes in an increasingly divided society. Can't fault them on that.
The mainstream consensus letter was penned specifically over the issue of the evidence itself, which was clearly established. Not the policy recommendations. You're free to disagree with their arguments, but pretending their evidence is made up or cherry picked is just denialism

Nah, the conclusions drawn in the letter you linked are vague. The conclusions drawn in the book are far more specific and lots more racist.

Like how a creationist says "Look at this poll. All physicists said we should doubt scientific theories".

The letter was massively panned at the time and the book was widely criticized. Rightly so.



Also a good amount of the specific claims are outdated.

7 and 8 specifically have been all but debunked, and were already questionable when that latter came out, which is why lots of psychologists signed criticisms.



Again, even if we give the letter all benefits of the doubt, it's 25 years old.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 5 2022 08:24pm