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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 2 2021 11:59pm)
If you go to a riot armed it looks like you're looking for am excuse to shoot somebody which negates the self defense claim.

Prosecution is going to argue he went there with intention to use the gun amd defense is going to argue he went there to help and was armed for his own safety. Itll be up to the jury which is more likely.


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? If his plan wasn't to get into "fray" why pack a gun with his entire agitator family/mom
the "he's so innocent" just saving gas stations is ridiculous. His shooting reaction in the moment may be defensible. He is reason for being there isn't.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 3 2021 07:59am)
? If his plan wasn't to get into "fray" why pack a gun with his entire agitator family/mom


Maybe he packed a gun because he anticipated there could be violence towards him. It was not because he intended to shoot people.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 3 2021 10:59am)
? If his plan wasn't to get into "fray" why pack a gun with his entire agitator family/mom
the "he's so innocent" just saving gas stations is ridiculous. His shooting reaction in the moment may be defensible. He is reason for being there isn't.


Luckily being there wasn’t a crime >_>
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Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 3 2021 08:07am)
Luckily being there wasn’t a crime >_>


I didn't call it a crime.. I called him stupid.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 3 2021 10:59am)
? If his plan wasn't to get into "fray" why pack a gun with his entire agitator family/mom
the "he's so innocent" just saving gas stations is ridiculous. His shooting reaction in the moment may be defensible. He is reason for being there isn't.


I carry every day, it is not because I hope to or intend to make use of it.

His reason for being there really doesn't need to be defended in this case, legally speaking that is, even though the earlier videos do a pretty good job of it to be honest. If his reason for being there is called into question we would need to raise that same question as it pertains to the other people involved, no?

To find common ground, you wouldn't catch me in the middle of something like that unless it was my property/livelihood at risk or my family's. Just from a tactical perspective i understand that decision is not conducive to self preservation. So I understand your point there for sure.

That being said, clearly he thought what he was standing up for and defending was worth the risk of being targeted by violence, and he, wisely in this case, prepared himself for the possibility that the risk he was aware of actually became a reality.

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Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 3 2021 11:08am)
I didn't call it a crime.. I called him stupid.



I misread I apologize.
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Quote (Crye @ Nov 3 2021 08:24am)
I carry every day, it is not because I hope to or intend to make use of it.

His reason for being there really doesn't need to be defended in this case, even though the earlier videos do a pretty good job of it to be honest. If his reason for being there is called into question we would need to raise that same question as it pertains to the other people involved, no?

To find common ground, you wouldn't catch me in the middle of something like that unless it was my property/livelihood at risk or my family's. Just from a tactical perspective i understand that decision is not conducive to self preservation. So I understand your point there for sure.

That being said, clearly he thought what he was standing up for and defending was worth the risk of being targeted by violence, and he, wisely in this case, prepared himself for the possibility that the risk he was aware of actually became a reality.


You think he really believed that or his mom has convinced him of this?
If you willingly put yourself in danger knowing it is volatile is the reaction then clearly? "self defense" (again his specific action is easily defendable) but he knowingly put himself in harms way and now acts like a victim.
again its a bizarre case to me where the shooting reaction is pretty cut and dry, but clouded by his specific and deliberate act of putting himself in a bad situation.
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Nov 3 2021 09:33am
Live feed, getting to the dumpster fire that caused the death of 2 people.
Imagine dying over a dumpster. LMAO
gat dayum

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Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 08:37am)
Did Kyle know that the people he was to go with put up a message on FB saying that they intended to shoot up the protest? Maybe he didn't know and just went with them to counter-protest or some such. Also, maybe he carries a gun habitually. He didn't specifically bring one for the express purpose of creating violence.


They provided him the gun.
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