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Oct 15 2020 04:37pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 15 Oct 2020 18:19)
That's simply not credible. How many disinformation stories have there been, and how many did Twitter immediately jump the gun and ban? Even Jack is struggling to explain this one.

a made up story that has 4 unamed sources vs 20+ on the record sources refuting it = fit to print and repost over 9000 million times

something with actual source material = banned

the fb/twitter way. if it were 2019 again they’d be banning posting mueller’s refute of buzzfeed’s failed reporting
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Oct 15 2020 04:44pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 04:46pm)
Not that simple lol. They could just as easily ban the current story under that rule by claiming the pictures are private and harassment of Hunter Biden.

And then you come to the issue where you are providing benefits in exchange for companies to provide hosting for things they disagree with which is tantamount to a punishment for not doing so...

The reality is that this is not a simple thing with a simple solution and nobody has proposed anything that would pass constitutional muster and actually fix the problem


This is one of those issues where I would love there to be a quick fix because left-leaning hosts get f***** by these companies a lot more often than right-leaning ones, but there simply isn't an easy solution that also passes constitutional muster and can be implemented in an unbiased way


Yes, you are providing liability protection to companies who participate in a greater social good. There is no immediate (legal or ethical) problem with that.

Legislation shouldn't be simple, but the whole notion that "if it isn't something a 3rd grader can write, let's give up" is ridiculous.
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Oct 15 2020 04:48pm
Quote (Ramy @ Oct 15 2020 04:15pm)
I will bet 1k fg that Trump beats Biden.

But I dont know who ^Santara is. I'm not a regular PaRD user

Would prefer a thread made specifically for this with both of us posted then the mediator holds the 1k fg.
Does that sound more reasonable?


I've mediated PaRD bets in the past. Here's my gold log for 2016:

11/15/2016, 7:15:04 PM Received 8.00 (926.00 -> 934.00) from thesnipa (444.63 -> 436.63) hackster backster bet
11/11/2016, 6:00:48 PM Sent -300.00 (1,226.00 -> 926.00) to Golden_Order (245.00 -> 545.00) wager with multimulti
11/11/2016, 10:20:29 AM Received 11.00 (1,215.00 -> 1,226.00) from Mangix (22.00 -> 11.00) Fo a vet that knows his... shet?..
11/11/2016, 9:59:18 AM Sent -1.00 (1,216.00 -> 1,215.00) to thesnipa (497.00 -> 498.00) PRB Tuesday 11/15
11/9/2016, 2:09:56 PM Received 50.00 (1,166.00 -> 1,216.00) from timmayX (3,250.00 -> 3,200.00) Thanks for med
11/9/2016, 10:21:24 AM Sent -400.00 (1,566.00 -> 1,166.00) to Thor123422 (20.82 -> 420.82) winning bet vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:20:36 AM Sent -120.00 (1,686.00 -> 1,566.00) to nobrow (0.10 -> 120.10) winning bet vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:19:57 AM Sent -8,590.00 (10,276.00 -> 1,686.00) to cejss (0.00 -> 8,590.00) winning bets vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:19:15 AM Sent -17,400.00 (27,676.00 -> 10,276.00) to AlSharpton14 (72.23 -> 17,472.23) winning bets http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=7
11/9/2016, 10:18:20 AM Sent -3,250.00 (30,926.00 -> 27,676.00) to timmayX (0.00 -> 3,250.00) winning bet vs SpelCzech
11/8/2016, 10:33:50 PM Received 200.00 (30,726.00 -> 30,926.00) from Thor123422 (236.00 -> 36.00) bet w/ icemage 1:1
11/8/2016, 10:33:22 PM Received 60.00 (30,666.00 -> 30,726.00) from nobrow (60.10 -> 0.10) 1:1 infavor of Trump betting with Icemage
11/8/2016, 10:31:58 PM Received 60.00 (30,606.00 -> 30,666.00) from IceMage (60.00 -> 0.00) 1:1 vs nobrow's trump
11/8/2016, 10:31:00 PM Received 200.00 (30,406.00 -> 30,606.00) from IceMage (260.00 -> 60.00) 1:1 vs thor's trump
11/8/2016, 9:48:40 PM Received 1,000.00 (29,406.00 -> 30,406.00) from cejss (1,000.00 -> 0.00) 4295 total 1:1 vs IceMage in favor of Trump
11/8/2016, 9:47:35 PM Received 1,000.00 (28,406.00 -> 29,406.00) from IceMage (1,260.00 -> 260.00) same bet
11/8/2016, 9:39:20 PM Received 295.00 (28,111.00 -> 28,406.00) from IceMage (295.00 -> 0.00) 1:1 cejss
11/8/2016, 9:38:37 PM Received 295.00 (27,816.00 -> 28,111.00) from cejss (1,295.00 -> 1,000.00) 1:1 3295 total vs IceMage in favor of Trump
11/8/2016, 9:27:04 PM Received 3,000.00 (24,816.00 -> 27,816.00) from IceMage (3,295.00 -> 295.00) 1:1 bet with cejss Trump vs hill
11/8/2016, 9:26:58 PM Received 3,000.00 (21,816.00 -> 24,816.00) from cejss (4,295.00 -> 1,295.00) 1:1 3k vs 3k in favor of trump
11/8/2016, 9:14:03 AM Sent -200.00 (22,016.00 -> 21,816.00) to Thor123422 (36.00 -> 236.00) Refund
11/8/2016, 9:09:00 AM Received 200.00 (21,816.00 -> 22,016.00) from Thor123422 (236.00 -> 36.00) Bet with AL sharpton
11/5/2016, 1:34:08 PM Received 4,845.00 (16,971.00 -> 21,816.00) from AlSharpton14 (4,917.23 -> 72.22) http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75197817&f
11/5/2016, 11:13:54 AM Received 2.00 (16,969.00 -> 16,971.00) from Kimiko_tan (9,521.00 -> 9,519.00)
11/5/2016, 10:50:52 AM Received 9,502.00 (7,467.00 -> 16,969.00) from Kimiko_tan (24,023.00 -> 14,521.00) my clinton 2:1 over trump med
11/5/2016, 10:17:20 AM Sent -5,000.00 (12,467.00 -> 7,467.00) to cambovenzi (2,385.72 -> 7,385.71) refund
11/5/2016, 10:10:32 AM Received 5,000.00 (7,467.00 -> 12,467.00) from cambovenzi (7,385.72 -> 2,385.72) My clinton vs trump 2:1
11/5/2016, 9:50:51 AM Received 187.00 (7,280.00 -> 7,467.00) from PKSubban (187.61 -> 0.61) my clinton vs trump
11/4/2016, 9:52:47 PM Received 955.00 (6,325.00 -> 7,280.00) from AlSharpton14 (5,872.23 -> 4,917.23) http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75197817&f
11/3/2016, 9:49:14 PM Received 220.00 (6,105.00 -> 6,325.00) from KublaiKhan (220.00 -> 0.00) Bat vs Al Sharpton, Hillary to win,
11/3/2016, 1:38:35 PM Received 400.00 (5,705.00 -> 6,105.00) from duffman316 (420.00 -> 20.00) Bet against al sharpton
11/3/2016, 1:33:30 PM Received 789.00 (4,916.00 -> 5,705.00) from Bazi (789.64 -> 0.63) 1:2 trump bet
11/3/2016, 12:47:11 PM Received 300.00 (4,616.00 -> 4,916.00) from Testiclese (1,701.01 -> 1,401.01) Hillary > trump
11/3/2016, 9:10:56 AM Received 200.00 (4,416.00 -> 4,616.00) from IceMage (245.00 -> 45.00) 1:2 bet with AlSharpton14
10/16/2016, 10:46:25 AM Received 750.00 (3,666.00 -> 4,416.00) from timmayX (750.00 -> 0.00) Trump over Clinton
10/14/2016, 11:02:36 PM Received 2,500.00 (1,166.00 -> 3,666.00) from AiNedeSpelCzech (3,600.00 -> 1,100.00) My Clinton to win vs timmayX's 750
10/14/2016, 5:52:12 PM Received 100.00 (1,066.00 -> 1,166.00) from lll420lll (1,812.90 -> 1,712.90) Trump wins POPULAR vote.
10/14/2016, 4:59:40 PM Sent -25.00 (1,091.00 -> 1,066.00) to thesnipa (649.00 -> 674.00) 270towin prize contribution
10/14/2016, 12:38:53 PM Received 200.00 (891.00 -> 1,091.00) from Golden_Order (460.00 -> 260.00) 200 fg Hillary wins POPULAR vote vs Multi's 10
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Oct 15 2020 05:22pm
Was digging through those old links. Day I sent 17,400 fg to alsharpton14 is the last day he logged into jsp:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1062356

Gold still sitting there.
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Oct 15 2020 05:29pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 15 2020 04:22pm)
Was digging through those old links. Day I sent 17,400 fg to alsharpton14 is the last day he logged into jsp:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1062356

Gold still sitting there.


RIP...
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Oct 15 2020 05:35pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 15 2020 06:48pm)
I've mediated PaRD bets in the past. Here's my gold log for 2016:

11/15/2016, 7:15:04 PM Received 8.00 (926.00 -> 934.00) from thesnipa (444.63 -> 436.63) hackster backster bet
11/11/2016, 6:00:48 PM Sent -300.00 (1,226.00 -> 926.00) to Golden_Order (245.00 -> 545.00) wager with multimulti
11/11/2016, 10:20:29 AM Received 11.00 (1,215.00 -> 1,226.00) from Mangix (22.00 -> 11.00) Fo a vet that knows his... shet?..
11/11/2016, 9:59:18 AM Sent -1.00 (1,216.00 -> 1,215.00) to thesnipa (497.00 -> 498.00) PRB Tuesday 11/15
11/9/2016, 2:09:56 PM Received 50.00 (1,166.00 -> 1,216.00) from timmayX (3,250.00 -> 3,200.00) Thanks for med
11/9/2016, 10:21:24 AM Sent -400.00 (1,566.00 -> 1,166.00) to Thor123422 (20.82 -> 420.82) winning bet vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:20:36 AM Sent -120.00 (1,686.00 -> 1,566.00) to nobrow (0.10 -> 120.10) winning bet vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:19:57 AM Sent -8,590.00 (10,276.00 -> 1,686.00) to cejss (0.00 -> 8,590.00) winning bets vs IceMage
11/9/2016, 10:19:15 AM Sent -17,400.00 (27,676.00 -> 10,276.00) to AlSharpton14 (72.23 -> 17,472.23) winning bets http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=7
11/9/2016, 10:18:20 AM Sent -3,250.00 (30,926.00 -> 27,676.00) to timmayX (0.00 -> 3,250.00) winning bet vs SpelCzech
11/8/2016, 10:33:50 PM Received 200.00 (30,726.00 -> 30,926.00) from Thor123422 (236.00 -> 36.00) bet w/ icemage 1:1
11/8/2016, 10:33:22 PM Received 60.00 (30,666.00 -> 30,726.00) from nobrow (60.10 -> 0.10) 1:1 infavor of Trump betting with Icemage
11/8/2016, 10:31:58 PM Received 60.00 (30,606.00 -> 30,666.00) from IceMage (60.00 -> 0.00) 1:1 vs nobrow's trump
11/8/2016, 10:31:00 PM Received 200.00 (30,406.00 -> 30,606.00) from IceMage (260.00 -> 60.00) 1:1 vs thor's trump
11/8/2016, 9:48:40 PM Received 1,000.00 (29,406.00 -> 30,406.00) from cejss (1,000.00 -> 0.00) 4295 total 1:1 vs IceMage in favor of Trump
11/8/2016, 9:47:35 PM Received 1,000.00 (28,406.00 -> 29,406.00) from IceMage (1,260.00 -> 260.00) same bet
11/8/2016, 9:39:20 PM Received 295.00 (28,111.00 -> 28,406.00) from IceMage (295.00 -> 0.00) 1:1 cejss
11/8/2016, 9:38:37 PM Received 295.00 (27,816.00 -> 28,111.00) from cejss (1,295.00 -> 1,000.00) 1:1 3295 total vs IceMage in favor of Trump
11/8/2016, 9:27:04 PM Received 3,000.00 (24,816.00 -> 27,816.00) from IceMage (3,295.00 -> 295.00) 1:1 bet with cejss Trump vs hill
11/8/2016, 9:26:58 PM Received 3,000.00 (21,816.00 -> 24,816.00) from cejss (4,295.00 -> 1,295.00) 1:1 3k vs 3k in favor of trump
11/8/2016, 9:14:03 AM Sent -200.00 (22,016.00 -> 21,816.00) to Thor123422 (36.00 -> 236.00) Refund
11/8/2016, 9:09:00 AM Received 200.00 (21,816.00 -> 22,016.00) from Thor123422 (236.00 -> 36.00) Bet with AL sharpton
11/5/2016, 1:34:08 PM Received 4,845.00 (16,971.00 -> 21,816.00) from AlSharpton14 (4,917.23 -> 72.22) http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75197817&f
11/5/2016, 11:13:54 AM Received 2.00 (16,969.00 -> 16,971.00) from Kimiko_tan (9,521.00 -> 9,519.00)
11/5/2016, 10:50:52 AM Received 9,502.00 (7,467.00 -> 16,969.00) from Kimiko_tan (24,023.00 -> 14,521.00) my clinton 2:1 over trump med
11/5/2016, 10:17:20 AM Sent -5,000.00 (12,467.00 -> 7,467.00) to cambovenzi (2,385.72 -> 7,385.71) refund
11/5/2016, 10:10:32 AM Received 5,000.00 (7,467.00 -> 12,467.00) from cambovenzi (7,385.72 -> 2,385.72) My clinton vs trump 2:1
11/5/2016, 9:50:51 AM Received 187.00 (7,280.00 -> 7,467.00) from PKSubban (187.61 -> 0.61) my clinton vs trump
11/4/2016, 9:52:47 PM Received 955.00 (6,325.00 -> 7,280.00) from AlSharpton14 (5,872.23 -> 4,917.23) http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75197817&f
11/3/2016, 9:49:14 PM Received 220.00 (6,105.00 -> 6,325.00) from KublaiKhan (220.00 -> 0.00) Bat vs Al Sharpton, Hillary to win,
11/3/2016, 1:38:35 PM Received 400.00 (5,705.00 -> 6,105.00) from duffman316 (420.00 -> 20.00) Bet against al sharpton
11/3/2016, 1:33:30 PM Received 789.00 (4,916.00 -> 5,705.00) from Bazi (789.64 -> 0.63) 1:2 trump bet
11/3/2016, 12:47:11 PM Received 300.00 (4,616.00 -> 4,916.00) from Testiclese (1,701.01 -> 1,401.01) Hillary > trump
11/3/2016, 9:10:56 AM Received 200.00 (4,416.00 -> 4,616.00) from IceMage (245.00 -> 45.00) 1:2 bet with AlSharpton14
10/16/2016, 10:46:25 AM Received 750.00 (3,666.00 -> 4,416.00) from timmayX (750.00 -> 0.00) Trump over Clinton
10/14/2016, 11:02:36 PM Received 2,500.00 (1,166.00 -> 3,666.00) from AiNedeSpelCzech (3,600.00 -> 1,100.00) My Clinton to win vs timmayX's 750
10/14/2016, 5:52:12 PM Received 100.00 (1,066.00 -> 1,166.00) from lll420lll (1,812.90 -> 1,712.90) Trump wins POPULAR vote.
10/14/2016, 4:59:40 PM Sent -25.00 (1,091.00 -> 1,066.00) to thesnipa (649.00 -> 674.00) 270towin prize contribution
10/14/2016, 12:38:53 PM Received 200.00 (891.00 -> 1,091.00) from Golden_Order (460.00 -> 260.00) 200 fg Hillary wins POPULAR vote vs Multi's 10


If the point was to tell people to bet against IceMage, mission accomplished!
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Oct 15 2020 05:47pm
sounds like hillary emails all over again
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Oct 15 2020 05:47pm
Quote (addone @ Oct 15 2020 04:47pm)
sounds like hillary emails all over again


except we actually have hunter's emails
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Oct 15 2020 05:51pm
Quote (proccy @ Oct 15 2020 07:47pm)
except we actually have hunter's emails


The FBI almost definitely threw the election to Trump with their late actions and people still believe Hillary got off easy. It's insane.
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Oct 15 2020 05:52pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2020 07:51pm)
The FBI almost definitely threw the election to Trump with their late actions and people still believe Hillary got off easy. It's insane.



Absolutely. Lied to the FBI. She and Flynn should both be in jail.
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