There giving out masks everywhere here these days. Makes me wonder what will happen long term.

it's worth knowing that the only mask worth buying is an n95 mask. those thin surgical masks most people wear are 100% useless, well they're slightly helpful in reducing the spread among those who are already infected.

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Feb 26 2020 09:09pm

If the virus stays in the body after infection it's clear that every one will end up to catch it.
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Hsieh Shie-liang, a research fellow at Academia Sinica, a Taiwan’s top research institution, warned that the Wuhan coronavirus could easily make a strong comeback next year even if it temporarily disappears, citing the virus’ unique nature.

Dr. Hsieh Shie-liang said the virus has three features that makes it difficult to cure. First, coronavirus is an RNA virus that mutates easily, it is more contagious than SARS, and it can spread from an asymptomatic person. This means that even someone who has recovered from the virus can transmit it, making it more difficult to curb its spread.

As a result, Hsieh said it is possible that the virus could stay dormant in the body after recovery and come back to haunt the host in winter or when their immune system is weakened. He said he imagines that the nature of the virus would make it a common infectious, influenza-like illness.
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It's like trying to eradicate flu, but without having a vaccine...

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 26 2020 09:57pm

no one can say conclusively that this thing can spread from an asymptomatic infected person to a healthy individual. also, this has to do with the incubation period (the first week or two) before symptoms turn up, not with a cured individual. there is no evidence to suggest that people who have been cured can spread the virus.

it certainly will not come back and re-afflict a previously infected person: that's not how viruses work.

the only thing you've said that is remotely plausible is the possibility of a resurgence next winter, but it's unlikely.

This is quote for some professor not me.
And there's case of one coming back to work after infection, was supposed to be 'cured' but he transmitted the disease to 2 others.

There is no proof Chinese government is cheating the numbers

members of the CDC have stated that a resurgence next year is likely. the vaccine they are working on won't even be ready for use until next year. (potentially)

Fauci says he's been talking to trusted colleagues in China about this issue, and "they told me without a doubt there is some degree of asymptomatic transmission."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/02/05/803158339/does-the-new-coronavirus-spread-silently?t=1582777970297

Asymptomatic is always relative tho. From barely nothing to 'I have a little headache but I will still go to work'.
Especially for the SARS 2 2019 the virus stays in body and one over x may face immune system depression and get sick again with this pseudo asymptomatic phase again. Like flu.
Not a big mystery, what I'm curious about is the moment when a country will say 'oh fuck let go back to work anyway' or not.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 26 2020 10:58pm

for every epidemiologist who says it's plausible that it could return next winter, there is one that says that's unlikely. this thing is like SARS and MERS, didnt survive 2 winters.

i don't think you understand how impossibly difficult it is to pinpoint the exact moment of transmission. these people could have gotten infected from fomites, from other infected people, etc.
do you seriously think that if this were true that in 80k+ cases it could possibly have happened once? no, we'd be seeing it everywhere. it's been around for over two months now. it would have spread to millions and millions of people.

Thanks for saying millions and millions are infected, i hope you have proofs. Thus i more likely believe you.
This would be terrible betrayal from China to the rest of the world tho.

Now regarding asymptomatic transmission, i think i will rely on what the professors & doctors said:
"they told me without a doubt there is some degree of asymptomatic transmission."