Well... this was all about Chinese signs in Chinatowns in the large cities... but yeah...they could be considered symbols. But that hasn't been ruled on one way or the other... so far.
Those court cases were referring to things like the peace sign, black armbands, who knows what else... but not other languages in particular.

The OP was ofc about Arabic signs in Beijing. As I said in the OP and probably 10-15 other times in this topic... I don't think it's a good idea to have signs in different languages, other than English, in the US.
I can see lots and lots of situations where they would present problems. I've even been a participant in a few.





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Read through all that legalese... they DID uphold the ruling that the street numbers had to be in arabic numbers...which is good. The other half of the ruling is what you claim, but I don't think it would make it to the supreme court, if challenged.

Also... note my post #13. I think that when all is said and done... the final ruling by the SC will be... they gotta be in English. Judge TAKASUGI <--- (note the name), took a lot of latitudinal reach with his ruling, IMO.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 1 2019 05:46pm

Here's an Arabic sign that you won't understand:

2+2=4

Post #220.

Yeah... post 221. There's only one of me.

i stand by what i said even if it was Chinese language instead of Arabic.
every letter of the English alphabet is a symbol. the letter of any language is a symbol.

so signs specifically are covered as long as they don't "violate" sections of free speech.

you're asking us to defend a case without any charges basically.
edit: why do they violate free speech laws and need to be regulated by government?

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Aug 1 2019 05:53pm

There is no legal precedent to suggest that the SCotUS would rule in any other way.

Courts, as YOU said, have ruled it violated 1a. Courts haven't ruled the other way. Prove they have.

In answer to all...

I'm not saying they violate free speech laws. I'm saying they aren't protected by them either. One California lower court judge, doesn't really count for much.


There is no precedent either way. SC has never ruled on this, as far as I know.


One case, that only gave half ruling to the claimant is not... "courts". It was a ruling about oriental signs, by a lower court with an oriental judge. Like I said earlier... kinda means diddly in the grand scheme of things. And even with the sign and the judge on the same side, so to speak.... he still HAD to rule that the street numbers had to be Arabic numerals ... aka non-Chinese.






You guys are acting like this is the law of the land... it's not. Sooner or later concerns over the "general welfare" (which has been ruled on 100's of times), will win out.







So all in all, I still stick with my statement in the OP. I think China passed a good law and I think sooner or later we will too.
The 1st Amendment is a great thing and I agree with it. I also know how fast it can be over turned when people think it should be. Anyone ever heard of... McCarthy?

i'd vote against it, under the premise of "freedom of speech" just as a starter.
putting a ban on a specific language is worse than, but also including book burning, eventually.

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Aug 1 2019 06:45pm

No one is banning language or even what the language says. No one is banning anything... yet.

Eventually ONLY non-English on signs, will be banned, and it won't be up to a vote. I mean the kangaroo court in Pomona, CA has already ruled that the street numbers on businesses had to be Arabic numerals, for the general welfare.
And that was with an oriental judge no less.

And don't worry... the various rulings on banning certain books, will lose in court... eventually.