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Sep 18 2018 01:55pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 18 2018 02:29pm)
it would be part of any standard autopsy. but an autopsy usually isnt needed when the cause of death is shot by bullets.


I see as they're trying to see how the 2 interacted prior to shooting

they could have been a couple for all we know
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Sep 18 2018 01:59pm
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I see as they're trying to see how the 2 interacted prior to shooting

they could have been a couple for all we know


no links and both the family and the officer deny it

one theory I've heard (and we've seen other cases like this) she came home after her long shift and his music was bothering her and the confrontation at his home instigated by her lead to the shooting

then the panic coverup story came about

which makes a lot more sense than the wrong apartment wrong floor while sober story she came up with

but we shall see
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Sep 18 2018 02:08pm
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no links and both the family and the officer deny it

one theory I've heard (and we've seen other cases like this) she came home after her long shift and his music was bothering her and the confrontation at his home instigated by her lead to the shooting

then the panic coverup story came about

which makes a lot more sense than the wrong apartment wrong floor while sober story she came up with

but we shall see


I agree they both likely didn't know each other, just I see the cops trying to get as much evidence as they can right away and piece it together after

it should have never been leaked to the media though

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Sep 18 2018 02:09pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 18 2018 03:59pm)
one theory I've heard (and we've seen other cases like this) she came home after her long shift and his music was bothering her and the confrontation at his home instigated by her lead to the shooting

then the panic coverup story came about


believable. Would really love to see the timing of when she parked the car and when she placed the call. There's gotta be some cameras at the parking garage, right?

By her story, there would be a minimum time elapsed between those 2 things. It wouldn't be hard to time the walk from her parking spot (which we know) to the door. Her "accidental shooting" wouldn't have allowed her to spend more than a minute or two inside the apartment.

With this new theory, however, she'd have gone to her apartment first, spent at least enough time to get annoyed by the music, and then backtracked.

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Sep 18 2018 02:13pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Sep 18 2018 01:55pm)
I see as they're trying to see how the 2 interacted prior to shooting

they could have been a couple for all we know


would a tox screen show they knew each other prior to the shooting? im confused as to what that would matter for.

she claims he was not responding to her commands, which weren't lawful, as she was in his house. So even if he were on a substance, which contributed to his lack of response to her commands, it shouldn't matter.

Further investigation into any prior relationship, fine, that's well within due process. But a post mortem tox screen on the victim seems entirely unrelated. unless its standard procedure to do a full autopsy on all victims of murder cases. however, i'd argue making any info from that public would be legally unjustified.

Quote (KrWWW @ Sep 18 2018 02:08pm)
I agree they both likely didn't know each other, just I see the cops trying to get as much evidence as they can right away and piece it together after

it should have never been leaked to the media though


yes, it seems we agree on it all!

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I agree they both likely didn't know each other, just I see the cops trying to get as much evidence as they can right away and piece it together after

it should have never been leaked to the media though


It's certainly a lock on manslaughter

at this point and time I support manslaughter over murder still but would want more years than I did earlier

that of course can change at any time but we don't have a murder conviction here and I don't want another cop getting off

texas manslaughter has 2-20 years so we have plenty of years to work with and a much easier conviction given what we know so far


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believable. Would really love to see the timing of when she parked the car and when she placed the call. There's gotta be some cameras at the parking garage, right?

By her story, there would be a minimum time elapsed between those 2 things. It wouldn't be hard to time the walk from her parking spot (which we know) to the door. Her "accidental shooting" wouldn't have allowed her to spend more than a minute or two inside the apartment.

With this new theory, however, she'd have gone to her apartment first, spent at least enough time to get annoyed by the music, and then backtracked.


so far from what I've researched and what's been released I wouldn't go murder

it's just asking to get her off

a manslaughter conviction and a judge willing to add the years for how shitty she was when all the evidence comes out is where I am at

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It's not as lock on anything in the U.S. Because in the US you are innocent until proven guilty.
If you look up the term innocent it will not say manslaughter or murder.

I wouldn't want to think folks on PaRD are trying to "paint" the image that the police officer is guilty without evidence collection and trial.
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Sep 18 2018 02:19pm
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It's not as lock on anything in the U.S. Because in the US you are innocent until proven guilty.
If you look up the term innocent it will not say manslaughter or murder.

I wouldn't want to think folks on PaRD are trying to "paint" the image that the police officer is guilty without evidence collection and trial.


The officer lied about the story and there is no denying she shot and killed the man in his apartment and it was not self defense

this is absolutely manslaughter unless they find what they need to bump it to murder

which I doubt exists but it may

there is no way given what we already know of the case this is not manslaughter at the minimum
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Sep 18 2018 02:22pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Sep 18 2018 04:19pm)
The officer lied about the story and there is no denying she shot and killed the man in his apartment and it was not self defense

this is absolutely manslaughter unless they find what they need to bump it to murder

which I doubt exists but it may

there is no way given what we already know of the case this is not manslaughter at the minimum




Yes there is no denying she shot and killed the man. The rest, so far is pure guesswork. Maybe you need to look up to word manslaughter.
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Sep 18 2018 02:25pm
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It's not as lock on anything in the U.S. Because in the US you are innocent until proven guilty.
If you look up the term innocent it will not say manslaughter or murder.

I wouldn't want to think folks on PaRD are trying to "paint" the image that the police officer is guilty without evidence collection and trial.


and when she's convicted guilty you'll say we need to wait for appeals. which isn't inside the perview of due process for a guilty verdict or imprisonment. like you did before.

you're a new excuse every week, doesn't it get tiring having to act like you have a different set of principles based on the story of the week?

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