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Sep 7 2018 01:54pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Sep 7 2018 03:46pm)
you are posting links from far-left propaganda site newsweek


according to this right wing propaganda, Newsweek isn't even as Liberal as CNN or MSNBC or NPR :/

https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-FC099_mapnew_NS_20180228120101.jpg

nice try though :/
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Sep 7 2018 01:56pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/when-i-challenge-the-president-i-do-it-directly-my-anonymous-colleague-should-have-too/2018/09/07/d453eaf6-b2ae-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.5cdf7f390786

Nikki Haley out with an article addressing the anonymous senior official. Pretty good stuff... and she notably doesn't deny many of the claims the anon official made.
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Sep 7 2018 01:57pm
Quote (Horford @ Sep 7 2018 09:54pm)
according to this right wing propaganda, Newsweek isn't even as Liberal as CNN or MSNBC or NPR :/

https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-FC099_mapnew_NS_20180228120101.jpg

nice try though :/


nice try, an unclickable #FakeLink

were you expecting me not to try and click it? :rofl:






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Sep 7 2018 02:00pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Sep 7 2018 03:57pm)
nice try, an unclickable #FakeLink

were you expecting me not to try and click it? :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/qFVqCRA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oHI9KBV.jpg


you just made it clickable, thanks. And it's made by a nut-job like yourself so you should find it credible.
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Sep 7 2018 02:03pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 7 2018 01:56pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/when-i-challenge-the-president-i-do-it-directly-my-anonymous-colleague-should-have-too/2018/09/07/d453eaf6-b2ae-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.5cdf7f390786

Nikki Haley out with an article addressing the anonymous senior official. Pretty good stuff... and she notably doesn't deny many of the claims the anon official made.


Good stuff for sure.

I'm just left with a salty taste at all this "undermining the agenda" talk. I think the anon author of the Op Ed overstated their ability to do that, and it think the people angry about the anon are giving them too much credit in return to do that. It's like when people claim Peter Strzok single handedly screwed over america, there were checks and balances and supervisors with oversight in that case, and likely the same applies here. Sure someone could on a micro level toss a few monkey wrenches in the machine, but anything big and they'd be found out pretty quickly. My guess is that Trump walks around and says and demands a lot of impulsive things, and that the anon is overstating their effect on the agenda by ignoring these impulses that almost everyone in the regime ignores. These types of stories have been leaked for a long time, "Trump asks, why cant we do ______, is told by his legal team that's not allowed". I think in reality someone is trying to paint themselves as the will of the people holding back the flood water when they're just hanging out doing what most people do in that regime, let shit go in one ear and out the other.

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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Sep 7 2018 02:51pm)
Obama could easily stop dropping hundreds of millions in bombs on the heads of brown people in the middle east and use this money to remove the chains from the scared-to-death children.

But sadly we see where his priorities were. Bombing women and children on the otherside of the world was more important than comfort of children next door who are running from a racist governments in their country.


Let me get this straight. Obama was going to easily stop dropping bombs with a republican majority in charge of congress? as if not having money was the reason they blocked everything he did(but were completely supportive of his drone program), and it was a case of either pay for bombs, or pay for shelters? is that really going to be your final answer? oh and nice job not answering the question, didn't expect you would.

Since you seem to be so concerned about the deaths of children, I'm sure you were completely livid about that 8 year old girl that happened to be a US citizen, that got shot in the neck during trump's botched yemen raid that also resulted in a dead navy seal and many other civilian deaths, right?

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Sep 7 2018 02:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 7 2018 03:03pm)
Good stuff for sure.

I'm just left with a salty taste at all this "undermining the agenda" talk. I think the anon author of the Op Ed overstated their ability to do that, and it think the people angry about the anon are giving them too much credit in return to do that. It's like when people claim Peter Strzok single handedly screwed over america, there were checks and balances and supervisors with oversight in that case, and likely the same applies here. Sure someone could on a micro level toss a few monkey wrenches in the machine, but anything big and they'd be found out pretty quickly. My guess is that Trump walks around and says and demands a lot of impulsive things, and that the anon is overstating their effect on the agenda by ignoring these impulses that almost everyone in the regime ignores. These types of stories have been leaked for a long time, "Trump asks, why cant we do ______, is told by his legal team that's not allowed". I think in reality someone is trying to paint themselves as the will of the people holding back the flood water when they're just hanging out doing what most people do in that regime, let shit go in one ear and out the other.


That's a little too much nuance for this forum... please never do that again.
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Sep 7 2018 02:25pm
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Sep 2018 16:23)
That's a little too much nuance for this forum... please never do that again.


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Sep 7 2018 02:26pm
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That's a little too much nuance for this forum... please never do that again.


my hope is that eventually that nuance is the public opinion and people stop treating the POTUS as some omnipresent god among men, and instead realize they're more like a head coach sitting with a head set on just hoping the QB remembers the playbook.
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Sep 7 2018 02:27pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 7 2018 03:26pm)
my hope is that eventually that nuance is the public opinion and people stop treating the POTUS as some omnipresent god among men, and instead realize they're more like a head coach sitting with a head set on just hoping the QB remembers the playbook.


At this point I would be happy if the QB wasn't chewing on the playbook.
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