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Sep 25 2014 12:06pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Sep 25 2014 01:57pm)
I have two engineering degrees
My girlfriend has an engineering degree
My sister is a semester away from her forensic science degree
Two of my cousins are pharmacists.
One of my cousins is a school teacher
Another cousin is soon to finish his radiology degree
One of my friends is finishing his PhD in chemistry
Another is finishing his Masters in English

All of us are hard working, responsible, respectful, and loving people.

The common denominator?
We were all swatted on the ass when we acted up and were lucky enough to have responsible and loving parents to explain to us what we did wrong.
We all followed a path that lead us to what we wanted, because we were taught to work for what we have and not scream and complain when we didnt get our way.


Beating a child is never right, all it takes is a light smack. If you are a good enough parent, you only need to swat them a few times in their lives, and they learn.


dont give a sh_it, as long as you are not reserving the same to you kids, penal system should treat everyone equally, being radiologist or working at Mc Donald

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Sep 25 2014 12:44pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Sep 25 2014 01:57pm)
I have two engineering degrees
My girlfriend has an engineering degree
My sister is a semester away from her forensic science degree
Two of my cousins are pharmacists.
One of my cousins is a school teacher
Another cousin is soon to finish his radiology degree
One of my friends is finishing his PhD in chemistry
Another is finishing his Masters in English

All of us are hard working, responsible, respectful, and loving people.

The common denominator?
We were all swatted on the ass when we acted up and were lucky enough to have responsible and loving parents to explain to us what we did wrong.
We all followed a path that lead us to what we wanted, because we were taught to work for what we have and not scream and complain when we didnt get our way.


Beating a child is never right, all it takes is a light smack. If you are a good enough parent, you only need to swat them a few times in their lives, and they learn.


I'm honestly completely stumped how "I was hit by my parents and turned out fine!" is seriously being put forth as a valid argument to support corporal punishment.

Plenty of people were raped, abused, etc. as kids and turned out fine, doesn't make it ok.

And many people were physically punished as kids and turned out to have mental illnesses.

The end result is not all that matters.
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Sep 26 2014 10:41am
Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 25 2014 01:44pm)
I'm honestly completely stumped how "I was hit by my parents and turned out fine!" is seriously being put forth as a valid argument to support corporal punishment.

Plenty of people were raped, abused, etc. as kids and turned out fine, doesn't make it ok.

And many people were physically punished as kids and turned out to have mental illnesses.

The end result is not all that matters.


Yeah, you have people who were abused in someway (most likely physically) when they were younger, and they turn out fine. I know some people who were. Yes they are fine. It's just in their personality to be able to handle it. Not everyone can.
That however does not lead to the idea that if someone gets smacked on the ass or another form of light physical punishment that it could lead to future mental illnesses.

As for smacking a child with mental illnesses, that's a different territory all together. That is also up to the doctor to properly diagnose when the child is of age. You can't just expect a parent to know this without themselves having medical knowledge.
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Sep 26 2014 12:15pm
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...aw crap , the NFL is fast becoming the National Intervention and Therapy League . So far this season we've had to suffer the distractions of a gay player , marijuana suspensions and domestic abuse . Now we have a new issue to deal with and we haven't even reached week 2 games .  :fume:


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Sep 26 2014 12:30pm
Quote (Brian_D @ 26 Sep 2014 13:15)
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If you don't beat a child you're a pussy?

Kids usually get spanked, switched, or beat whatever you want to call it because the parent is mad, not as a learning experience for the child.

What the kid is learning is ' if I get mad at someone I should hit them'. perpetuating violence as a way of responding to anger isn't a way to raise our society up to a new level is it?
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Sep 26 2014 12:48pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Sep 26 2014 11:30am)
If you don't beat a child you're a pussy?

Kids usually get spanked, switched, or beat whatever you want to call it because the parent is mad, not as a learning experience for the child.

What the kid is learning is ' if I get mad at someone I should hit them'. perpetuating violence as a way of responding to anger isn't a way to raise our society up to a new level is it?


I dont believe in hitting kids.

But people are bitching more and more these days about non issues.

This issue is not a non issue but most of the shit people cry about these days are non issues.
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Sep 26 2014 12:49pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Sep 25 2014 12:57pm)
I have two engineering degrees
My girlfriend has an engineering degree
My sister is a semester away from her forensic science degree
Two of my cousins are pharmacists.
One of my cousins is a school teacher
Another cousin is soon to finish his radiology degree
One of my friends is finishing his PhD in chemistry
Another is finishing his Masters in English

All of us are hard working, responsible, respectful, and loving people.

The common denominator?
We were all swatted on the ass when we acted up and were lucky enough to have responsible and loving parents to explain to us what we did wrong.
We all followed a path that lead us to what we wanted, because we were taught to work for what we have and not scream and complain when we didnt get our way.


Beating a child is never right, all it takes is a light smack. If you are a good enough parent, you only need to swat them a few times in their lives, and they learn.


Two engineering degrees and you don't know why anecdotal evidence isn't accepted? Some college you went to.
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Sep 26 2014 01:43pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Sep 26 2014 01:49pm)
Two engineering degrees and you don't know why anecdotal evidence isn't accepted?  Some college you went to.


Yeah, and the same can be said if you cherry picked the times people grew up damaged because of some physical discipline.

You want a larger sample size? Look at our previous generations, they were hit as children. Our parents did, their parents did, and so on. Some bad eggs developed from it possibly yeah, but as a whole they are all alright, responsible, hardworking, and got shit done.

Look at the upcoming generations; a bunch of self entitled whiners who have their parents step in when they get in trouble at school or yelled at by someone else.

Maybe its not even physical discipline that's an issue, but more so poor discipline by parents all together.
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Sep 26 2014 02:05pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Sep 26 2014 02:43pm)
Yeah, and the same can be said if you cherry picked the times people grew up damaged because of some physical discipline.

You want a larger sample size? Look at our previous generations, they were hit as children. Our parents did, their parents did, and so on. Some bad eggs developed from it possibly yeah, but as a whole they are all alright, responsible, hardworking, and got shit done.

Look at the upcoming generations; a bunch of self entitled whiners who have their parents step in when they get in trouble at school or yelled at by someone else.

Maybe its not even physical discipline that's an issue, but more so poor discipline by parents all together.


Do you even science bro? You can't look at a generation and say that one aspect of that generation was responsible for their behavior. There's so many factors now that didn't even exist when my parents were growing up, like internet, etc.
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Sep 26 2014 02:06pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ 26 Sep 2014 14:43)
Yeah, and the same can be said if you cherry picked the times people grew up damaged because of some physical discipline.

You want a larger sample size? Look at our previous generations, they were hit as children. Our parents did, their parents did, and so on. Some bad eggs developed from it possibly yeah, but as a whole they are all alright, responsible, hardworking, and got shit done.

Look at the upcoming generations; a bunch of self entitled whiners who have their parents step in when they get in trouble at school or yelled at by someone else.

Maybe its not even physical discipline that's an issue, but more so poor discipline by parents all together.



And some of it could be who the discipline is being left to, day-care, pre-school, school, babysitters, and after school programs. There often isn't much time for parenting.
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